Agent Vinod (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
Agent Vinod has lost!
The deterioration of the Bharati cinema is palpable. It is no longer an art–its a sequence of mismatched scenes cobbled together with songs and dances and high speed chases and action scenes stolen from Hollywood. Most Bharati Bollywood “movies” are rip offs of American movies or recycled hackneyed themes of love triangles. The best movies about Bharat are made outside Bharat–in Canada and in the US. The series, Earth, Wind and Fire are true depictions of Bharati society and were made in Canada by a brave Bharati woman named Deepak Mehta. Those movies are not box-office hits because the pullulating millions eking out a living on the streets of Bharat are not looking for reality, they see it everyday. After a 16 hour work, before the struggling Bharati returns to the sidewalk (which is home to half the populations of Delhi, Mumbai, Lucknow, Benaras, Kolkota etc) the citizens of Bharat (which hosts 79% of the world’s poor) want to get on a high–a fantasy trip of gyrating pelvises, and scantly clad women with made-up beauty which is never found on the streets of any Bharati city. Sitting in a Bharati theater in the US shows the contrast. Not one of the women in the mostly Bharati audience comes close to the complexion or the beauty on the Bollywood screen. The short dark hunched back women in the audience also want a fantasy trip–
This brings up to the latest brouhaha about Agent Vinod. The Pakistanis have apparently banned the cheap Western rip-off. Agent Vinod does what Bollywood does best, malign, and accuse–and create some of nationhood for a country made up of 560 states. Like all Bharati movies the first few scenes create the momentum and the tune. Bollywood hires foreign technicians to make the first five minutes–then the movie deteriorates into “Made in India” mode, studio scenes and the regular rigmarole.
The action scenes are so silly that only 4 year olds can believe them. Most of the movie is about a love-interest and the song and dance that goes with it.
Mughal E Azam (Image via RottenTomatoes.com). The glory of the Indian Cinema that was destroyed by the soft-porn that is churned out everyday
For some strange reason Bharatis are very proud of their soft-porn industry called Bollywood, and they should be equally proud of their hard-porn industry–now the largest in the world. Both produce abject trash with no redeeming value. Those who watch it do so due to lack of real entertainment and real movies. The Russians used cinema to dramatic affect by producing high-class movies and then created a culture of opera, dance, and fine arts which has inspired generations with classy stuff. Even the Iranians have been able to use cinema to good affect by not deteriorating the morals of the society. Bharat has taken the cheap sensational and pornographic route. The entire society is depicted as love-crazed frustration over the opposite sex with dances which could never exist in real life. Hence the status of the society–bereft of any class. One thing that Bollywood does well is translate entire Hollywood movies and depicts them in a South Asia decor. Hence the audience watches a Hollywood move in a local setting–even though the reproduction is shoddy, punctured with lewd song and dance sequences.
I used to be that Pakistanis could take an entire family out to watch an “Indian” movie. Now that is rare on two counts. The soft-porn nature of the movies makes it impossible to watch with children. Secondly the content has deteriorated to such an extent that classics like Mughal e Azam and Umran Jaan Ada are a relic of the past, never to be resurrected. Joda Akbar was a good attempt and a good movie, but such instances are rare.
Pakistani coin, "Two Rupees" (Photo credit: Wikipedia). Islamabad votes to curtial Bharati prfits from anti-Pakistani movies
The Bharati movie industry has learned that Anti-Pakistan films don’t ever make it to box-office success. Most Bharati movies make most of their money in the West. Large Pakistani and Bangladeshi audineces boycott anti-Muslim films that try to conjure up Mahabharata–hence the movies don’t rake in as many Dollars are those that stay neutral.
Sriram Raghavan‘s film ‘Agent Vinod’ is banned in Pakistan because of the obvious reasons, it portrays Pakistani is a bad light. A permanent ban on Indian films was placed in Pakistan in 1965 which was lifted after 43 years in 2008. Lifting the ban was a mistake. The aftereffects of Bollywood movies are disastrous. This is not a Pakistani concern, it is also a Bharati one. Bollywood should be banned for the same reason that US media does not broadcast XXX movies over the airwaves, and one has to be 21 to watch it in a theater. Bollywood does not have a rating system, so all Pakistani and Bharati youth are exposed to nonsense, which even American children do not get exposed to. Either Bollywood comes up with affective ways to shield the children from soft-porn, or it should be banned pending a strict rating system. Bollywood does not produce films for kids!
Bollywoods lecherous heroes, and wanton dowagers portrays an alien culture, and destroys the moral turpitude of the youth, who need positive direction. being love-lorn and chasing girls on buses and cars is not a national pastime for Pakistanis and should not be. The hope was that lifting the ban would allow Pakistani films and dramas to reach the Bharati audiences. Bharat has not imported Pakistani movies–except for a couple which reinforced the Pakistani stereotype, “Bol” and “Khuda Keh Liyeh”. Thus Lollywood has been a net loser as has been the Pakistani audience.
Pip-squeaks from across the border are challenging the Pakistani ban under the guise of “freedom of expression”. However they don’t even know that Pakistani channels are banned in Bharat and even the dramas cannot be shown on cable TV in Bharat. has produced high-class television and drama–devoid of lewdness. It produced and still generates good clean entertainment which one can watch with the entire family. Hence most Bharatis enjoy that culture and that medium. Bharati audiences are big losers when Bharati Cable companies are not allowed to broadcast Pakistan dramas.
The current ban on Agent Vinod is silly. Pakistan should ban all Bharati movies, and institute a 1-on-1 exchange program. For each Bahrati movie that is imported into Pakistan, Bharat should import one Pakistani movie. Bharati Tv bans Pakistani shows and dramas–that ban should be lifted if Bharat wants to sell movies in Pakistan
The current thinking in Pakistan is–it cant be a two way street. If Bharat bans Pakistani cricketers from IPL why should Pakistan allow Bollywood porno films from opening in Pakistan.
It is true that many Bharati Khans are enjoy the stature of superstars in Pakistan. However Pakistani cricket superstars are not allowed to play in the IPL.
Showing the Pakistani army in bad form cannot be profitable for Bharati film-makers--at least they wont be able to make money in Pakistan on that theme!
It is true that banning increases the curiosity enhances the pirated DVDs and internet downloads. However the point is made. This denies the likes of Raghvan the revenue that he would get from Pakistani theaters. If Raghvan wants to make money in Pakistan, his content should not be anti-Pakistani–else he will lose revenue. Its his choice!
Pakistani film-goers will vote with their Dollars, and their Rupees. Pakistani film authorities will vote with their clot and deny Bollywood the profits that they hope to make.
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“Not one of the women in the mostly Bharati audience comes close to the complexion or the beauty on the Bollywood screen. The short dark hunched back women in the audience also want a fantasy trip”
1. so do you mean that people who are not good looking and not so rich do not have moral right to fantasize and dream?
2.The facial looks and physical structure is somthing that god gives to every human and by looking down upon it you show very clearly how mean and narrow minded you are. For you a human being (especially women) are all about how good looking and physically attractive they are, you just cant accept that a woman too is human.
“If Bharat bans Pakistani cricketers from IPL why should Pakistan allow Bollywood porno films from opening in Pakistan.”
Its not bharat that forces people in pakistan to watch Indian movies. Pakistan did ban indian movies for long time still people in pakistan smuggled indian movie DVDs. Why dont you just go and ban it. But if you ban Indian movies what will poor pakistanis watch? Except for ‘handful’ pakistanis, most dont know english, so choice of watching super porno english movies is already out of question. And pakistani movies (again a handful in number) are of such pathetic level that it gives no entertainment of any kind. So all they are left with is Indian movies where they can understand the language and find some relief from islamic hardliners who have only three agenda in life…1. beat their women and never allow them freedom of any kind. 2. keep cursing and make plans to terrorize the western world 3. keep cursing India.
All these movies where western world is copied has actually come from this khan gang which rules the bollywood. And agent Vinod is one such movie by one such khan.
Bottomline: if you have so much of problem with Indian movies why doesn’t pakistan make its own movie and watch it. India is not obliged to make movies as per whims and fancies of some pakistani whose only achievement is Bharat bashing with half cooked and half revealed information.
If a certain set of people like something and enjoy a certain kind of entertainment why should it be someone else’s problem.
DONT WATCH INDIAN MOVIES …. NO ONE FORCES YOU TO. IF YOU ‘CAN’ MAKE YOUR OWN MOVIES make it and watch it. But alas! we all know that pakistan is simply not capable.
anytomdickandhary
Another Bharati so proud of Soft-porn. Bharat also owns the largest market in hard-core porn. Sure you are produ of that also.
Have you ever heard of “dubbing”? All Hollywood movies in the world are watched in Spanish, French, Persian and Arabic.
Pakistan should ban all Indian movies–so that Bollyowood doesnt get profits. If anyone wants to watch it on DVD, or other means, who cares.
1. “Have you ever heard of “dubbing”? ”
Oh, yes i do remember having watched some english movies which were dubbed in hindi some longtime back (aroud 20 years ago). And also I realised how pathetic a movie becomes after it is dubbed in a local language. As so many connotations, expressions and emotions are so language specific that it simply cannot be translated into any other language.
Try and find appropriate translations for these expressions in english “shaukin”,”mizaaz”,”tabiyat”…. we use these terms so often in out day to day language but still english language has no appropriate translation for these terms.
I think you haven’t done any research on why people watch movies. If you would have, you would have never made the reference to “dubbing”.
And even after dubbing of the english movies, dont they have the same porno nature? (perhaps a bit more than indian movies) which you seem to be critising all along.
2. The same old statement……”Pakistan should ban all Indian movies–”
Dont say it…. just do it. ‘Dum hai to kar ke dikhao’
3. “Another Bharati so proud of Soft-porn”
Show me one statement in my previous comment which even remotely suggests that I am proud of ‘Soft-porn’. My previous comment is a sharp retort towards your illogical and one sided contempt towards certain set of humans(just because they are on the other side of a political border).
4.”Pakistan should ban all Indian movies–so that Bollyowood doesnt get profits”
So your real problem seems not the ‘soft-porn’ nature of indian movies or west-copied stuff. Your real problem is bollywood making profits out of pakistan. So why this hypocricy under the name of soft-porno and western copied stuff.
anytomdickandhary.
Ban the Bharati movies—they are soft-porn.
“1. so do you mean that people who are not good looking and not so rich do not have moral right to fantasize and dream? ”
where did u get this from? the part u quoted in no way projects this view.
“Oh, yes i do remember having watched some english movies which were dubbed in hindi some longtime back (aroud 20 years ago). And also I realised how pathetic a movie becomes after it is dubbed in a local language. As so many connotations, expressions and emotions are so language specific that it simply cannot be translated into any other language.”
thats ur own opinion. and maybe it has to do with being dubbed in hindi b/c english is one of the easiest languages to translate properly. u make a good point on connotations but i dont see why u would also mention expressions and emotions
“Try and find appropriate translations for these expressions in english “shaukin”,”mizaaz”,”tabiyat”…. we use these terms so often in out day to day language but still english language has no appropriate translation for these terms.”
we’re not talking about indian movies being dubbed in english. its the other way around. therefore this point is moot.
“Show me one statement in my previous comment which even remotely suggests that I am proud of ‘Soft-porn’”
its not a statement that he refers to…its the whole thinking behind ur comment. u are, whether intentionally or not, defending indian movies.
“My previous comment is a sharp retort towards your illogical and one sided contempt towards certain set of humans(just because they are on the other side of a political border).”
u really need to learn history. the proper one. not propaganda and disinfo filled nonsense. maybe then u will realize why he’s not fond of indians as u are. keep in mind its not toward them specifically. its in general. actually u dont even need to look at history. just look at this past decade.
It seems every thing you said seem to support for Softporn (which is all of the Bollywood history).
you are still nice to these indian movies when you said soft porne, look their dances and their moves when the man is behind the girl and how they behave can you sit with your childern and watch.Let the indian watch and enjoy their culture,please dont make it Soft it is really unbearable.