What were the Pakistani Mellhuas doing in 8000 BC
Computer-aided reconstruction of coastal Harappan settlement at Sokhta Koh near Pasni, Pakistan. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
As an ardent fan of the Professor Dr Ahmed Hasan Dani‘s concept of Pakistani history and a protagonist of the Indus people philosophy of Ahtizaz Ahsan, it is always a joy to hear about another book about the ‘Melluhas’ of the Pakistani Civilization.

This maps looks like the map of Pakistan. It is. It is the map of Indus Valley 3500 years ago. This is the map of the Indus Valley Civilization which existed 5000 years ago on the banks of the Indus. This represent the Indus Pakistanis (see Indus Saga by Ahtizaz Ahsan, and Professor Dani’s prolific writings). The IVC was not Hindu. They buried their dead, wrote a non-Sanskirt pictographic language, ate beef, did not know the horse, wre not vegetarian, wrote right to left, did not know the horse (No Arjun), and did not worship any of the Hindu pantheon (Arjun, Agni, Mithra, Nag). This map shows the Indus Valley Civilization which traded with the Muslim Moses in Mesopotamia. Pakistan is the latst Muslim incarnation of the IVC. The Indus people banded together to live togther as they had lived together for thousands of years. This was the contract once the Britain left. Bharat never existed as a united country–WHAT PARTITION?. This map shows the later stages of the IVC in Lothala and part sof Gujerat. The original IVC thrived only on the banks of the Indus (http://moinansari.wordpress.com/files/2008/01/pakistan-existed-5000-years-ago-as-ivc.gif)
The Melhulans were the Indus people who lived on the River Indus. They were the early ancestors of the present day Pakistanis. the DNA results from the remains of the people in the graves show a 98% congruence with the Baluch, Punjabis, Pakhtuns and Sindhis of the current era. This is why Professor Dani, Ahtizaz Ahsan and this author want to refer to the “Indus Valley Civilization” as the Pakistani Civilization. The temple education from across the border notwithstanding. the facts remain that the people of the Indus is spectacularly different than the people of the Ganges. It is the stupidity of the leaders of the Ganges to refer to themselves as Indosians or “Indians”. The could call themselves Ganians or the rural people or whatever. They were certainly not the urban people of the Pakistani Civilization.
http://www.zimbio.com/World+Politics/articles/3072/Balauchistan+join+Pakistan
The temple education in Bharat teaches them that their land extends from Kabul to Raj Kalhani (mythical island East of Hindu Bali in Indonesia). Thus this temple education prohibits them from accepting any of the countries in their borders–Tibet, Sikkim, Bhutan, Nepal, Lanka, Mayanmar, Bangladesh and Pakistan. Pakistani Mehergarh civilizition preceded Pakistani Indus Valley Civilization
Any intellectual capital that can refute this irredentist, revanchist “Akhand Bharat” type of thinking. The book is not available on Amazon.com. Here is a review by Naeem Tahir.
- This maps looks like the map of Pakistan. It is. It is the map of Indu Valley 3500 years ago. This is the map of the Indus Valley Civilization which existed 5000 years ago on the banks of the Indus. This represent the Indus Pakistanis (see Indus Saga by Ahtizaz Ahsan, and Professor Dani’s prolific writings). The IVC was not Hindu. They buried their dead, wrote a non-Sanskirt pictographic language, ate beef, did not know the horse, wre not vegetarian, wrote right to left, did not know the horse (No Arjun), and did not worship any of the Hindu pantheon (Arjun, Agni, Mithra, Nag). This map shows the Indus Valley Civilization which traded with the Muslim Moses in Mesopotamia. Pakistan is the latst Muslim incarnation of the IVC. The Indus people banded together to live togther as they had lived together for thousands of years. This was the contract once the Britain left. Bharat never existed as a united country–WHAT PARTITION?. This map shows the later stages of the IVC in Lothala and part sof Gujerat. The original IVC thrived only on the banks of the Indus (http://moinansari.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/pakistan-existed-5000-years-ago-as-ivc.gif)
Books on ancient history and research are usually read by those who are interested in the subject or those who are working on the subject themselves, but they have no attraction for the average reader. So it is a pleasant surprise to read Naeem Tahir’s book, ‘Melluhas of the Indus Valley 8000 BC — 500 BC’, which is comparatively less ‘heavy’ than the average tome on the subject. A beautifully produced book of two hundred and fifty pages, it features reproductions of the art work of that era and tells in simple, easy to understand language about the life and times of our ancestors who are part of our heritage and ancient civilization. For history lovers it provides an absorbing read of our historical and ancestral past.
Al-Ansar Ul Haq says:
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IVC is defined by the rivers and people.
- We live along those rivers and we are the modern lineage of the IVC people.
- We inherit it, it belongs to us as it is is our heritage.
- The heritage of Kashmir, Punjabis, Pakthuns, Balochis and Sindhis and our religion is Islam.
- We are the heir to our rich civilisation and history it isn’t defined by faith but geography, people and it is US and NOT you.
- We made a mistake allowing your kind to hijack our history that is our failing and we owe it to ourselves to reclaim our heritage and history from the British legacy along with our lands.
- Sometimes as Muslims we shy away from our non Muslim past and this is wrong and allows another people to lay claim to the IVC.
We do not want this region and waters dirtied by the followers of thumb Melanie The Ganges people. Their hearts as black and dirty as the waters and I will not go into ethnicity.
Piece of red pottery from IVC. Harappa. Fragment of Large Deep Vessel, circa 2500 B.C.E. Red pottery with red and black slip-painted decoration, 4 15/16 x 6 1/8 in. (12.5 x 15.5 cm). Brooklyn Museum (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
In his interesting prelude, Naeem Tahir has stated that he began by wanting to know more about his own ancestors and build up a family tree, but the search for a credible lineage soon turned into a search for roots and he ended up delving deeper into the fascinating history, archaeology, anthropology and civilisations of South East Asia and in particular the Indus Valley. Thus his search developed a stronger focus, which ultimately led to the writing of the book after a decade of reading and research since his first foray into finding his lineage. He concludes with the question, “Have I reached the truth?” and answered it with a quote by Greek philosopher Xenophanes, ‘No man knows or ever will know the truth, for even if one happened by chance to say the complete truth, nevertheless one would not know it.’

Impression of an Indus Valley seal, showing an “Indus script” string of five characters (British Museum, 2005 photograph) (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
The introductory note has been written by the late Professor Dr Ahmed Hasan Dani, who said, “This study for the first time, speaks about the people who were instrumental in building our great past. Full of engrossing illustrations, maps photographs and little known facts about the ancient Indus people, this book is both valuable reference material and a readable book of general interest for all those who take pride in their national heritage.”
Archaeology and Museums Department Director General Dr Fazal Dad Kakar said, “The great value of this book lies in creating a comprehensive profile of the people who developed one of the greatest civilizations of humanity. His ten years of study have ended with the production of a remarkable document.”
English: Hand-propelled wheel cart, Indus Valley Civilization (3000–1500 BCE). Housed at the National Museum, New Delhi. Italiano: Carretto con ruote mosso a mano, Civiltà della valle dell’Indo (3.000-1.500 a.C.). Esposto presso il National Museum di Nuova Delhi. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
Professor Emeritus, Dr Anwar Dil has written a detailed review essay on the book, which will be helpful for those who want to know and understand the contents of the book to the fullest. He has taken it chapter by chapter using many references by other scholars and an updated bibliography and ends his review with the question, “Is it possible that the Melluhas that Naeem Tahir holds up in his book with such devoted affection as his ancestors had become ossified and their social and economic life weakened or was it a natural disaster like the one that struck Harappa where several hundred unburied dead bodies were discovered lying scattered in a street? A full length study is needed to approach these and related questions from the perspective of the rise and fall of civilizations.” The book has been designed and produced by Ayesha Taslim. — Ishrat Hyatt. ‘Melluhas of the Indus Valley’:An interesting addition to history books. Wednesday, September 09, 2009 By Naeem Tahir Publisher: PNCA Price: Rs2,000

4 Ancient Superpowers: China (Yangtze valley), Egypt (Nile Valley), Iraq (Tigris Valley), Pakistan (Indus Valley)
Pakistani Mehergarh civilization preceded Pakistani Indus Valley Civilization: Pakistan is the home of several Civilizations. As we navigate the corridors of time and look into the seeds of time we discover the seven thousand year old Mehergarh Civilization that encompassed much of Pakistan. After the demise of the Mehergarh Civilization the Indus Valley Civilization came to its zenith around 3500 BC.
If one looks at the map of the Indus Valley Civilization one is astonished that the civilization was within the borders of current day Pakistan. The Mehergarh and the Indus Valley Civilizations were not “Hindu“. The Indus Valley Civilization for example buried their dead, used a pictographic language, read right to left, did not use horses and did not worship the Hindu pantheon. Similarly the Mehergarh Civilization was similar in character.
- 4 Ancient Superpowers: China (Yangtze valley), Egypt (Nile Valley), Iraq (Tigris Valley), Pakistan (Indus Valley)
THE FOUR SUPERPOWERS OF PROTO-HISTORY: China, Egypt, Iraq and Pakistan. The Nile, the Tigris-Euphrates delta, the Yangtze Delta, and the Indus, are the wombs of all civilizations on our earth. These river valley spawned and nurtured humanity. Imagine a world with four superpowers at peace with each other. Imagine a planet where each civilization was immersed in humongous construction projects, urban edification and trade. . How did these proto-world powers interact with each other? Imagine a civilization without any implements of war. Let us look into pre-history and peek into the “seeds” of time. Let us look at the valleys of the world that engendered the Superpowers of the ancient world..
- The IVC was on the banks of the Indus which is present day Pakistan
PAKISTAN 5000 YEARS AGO:-The Indus Valley Civilization of South Asia was one of the inceptive civilizations on the planet. It was contemporaneous with the Chinese, Egyptian, and Sumerian civilizations. These were the times when the Egyptians were building huge monuments to their God-kings,the pyramids and the Sphinx. These were the centuries when the Chinese were building palaces for the Shun dynasty. These were exciting eons in the Holy lands too.
This work is licensed under a Creative Commons License. The photo is available at http://www.world66.com/asia/southasia/pakistan/moenjodaro/lib/gallery/showimage?pic=/asia/southasia/pakistan/moenjodaro/moenjodaro (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
These were the centuries when Moses was battling the pharaohs, Abraham was building the Kaaba, David was ruling the kingdom, and Solomon was building the Temple of Yahweh. It was during these centuries that the Indus Valley Civilization flourished and reached its zenith in South Asia.
The IVC built well planned municipalities for its citizens. While the Egyptians spent three generations of their labor force (estimated between 20,000-10000) building useless mausoleum-pyramids to bury the God-kings, the Harappans were successful in eradicating, disease, hunger, and malnutrition.
The Harappans of the IVC did not build huge commemorative, deifying, dedicatory, cenotaphs. The Harappans of Meluhha-IVC built the finest cities of the third millennium.
Mehergarh situated strategically near the Bolan Pass, is located at the foot of the Balochistan hills on the Katchi plain southeast of Quetta. A 9000 year old site of settlement, Neolithic Mehergarh consists of four mounds. Supported by the Pakistan Department of Archeology, French archeologists have been carrying out extensive excavations there for some years. These excavations, studies and research have led to pushing back these settlements to some 9000 years.
_Accessibility: Mehargarh is well connected by road, air and by train with the rest of the country by Quetta
The 5000 yeard old Pakistan as it interacted with the other 3 superpwoers
The Pakistani civilization interacted with many regions of the world
The history of Baluchistan is fascinating. Mehergarh is the oldest agricultural site in the Subcontinent. The artifacts found there go back 7000 years. The people of Mehargarh have been living peacefully with the Indus Valley Civilization for thousands of years. During the British colonial rule no such province existed. It is a merger of many independent states. At the end of the colonial era the Provinces of West India decided to band together and form Pakistan.



Extract from wikipedia
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IVC: Religion
The so-called Shiva Pashupati seal
Further information: Prehistoric religion and History of Hinduism
Some Indus valley seals show swastikas, which are found in other religions (worldwide) , especially in Indian religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism. The earliest evidence for elements of Hinduism are alleged to have been present before and during the early Harappan period.[60] Phallic symbols interpreted as the much later Hindu Shiva lingam have been found in the Harappan remains.[61][62]
Swastika Seals from the Indus Valley Civilization preserved at the British Museum.
Many Indus valley seals show animals. One motive shows a horned figure seated in a posture reminiscent of the Lotus position and surrounded by animals was named by early excavators Pashupati (lord of cattle), an epithet of the later Hindu gods Shiva and Rudra.[63][64][65]
In view of the large number of figurines found in the Indus valley, some scholars believe that the Harappan people worshipped a Mother goddess symbolizing fertility, a common practice among rural hinduists even today.[66] However, this view has been disputed by S. Clark who sees it as an inadequate explanation of the function and construction of many of the figurines.[67]
There are no religious buildings or evidence of elaborate burials. If there were temples, they have not been identified[68]
In the earlier phases of their culture, the Harappans buried their dead; however, later, especially in the Cemetery H culture of the late Harrapan period, they also cremated their dead and buried the ashes in burial urns, a transition notably also alluded to in the Indo-European Rigveda, where the forefathers “both cremated (agnidagdhá-) and uncremated (ánagnidagdha-)” are invoked (RV 10.15.14).
It is possible that a temple exists to the East of the great bath, but the site has not been excavated. There is a Buddhist reliquary mound on the site and permission has not been granted to move it.[69] Until there is sufficient evidence, speculation about the religion of the IVC is largely based on a retrospective view from a much later Hindu perspective.[42]
ANOTHER PRODUCT OF THE TEMPLE INDOCTRINATION. Unable to quote history, you bank on religion to prove nothing.
We have been through this many times before
Wiki is not a good source.
Swastikas were found in Germany, Venezuela, South Africa, Kenya, Australia and Nigeria–has nothing to do with Hinduism
Buddhism has nothing to do with Hinduism
IVC seals show a bull–Hinduism worships cows not bulls.
“It is possible”…”could have been” “found in other religions” means less than nothing.
The IVC was not Hindu–did not use Sanskrit, did not know of the horse, did not use the Hindu pantheon of Gods, Ganesh, Laxmi and used a pictographic script–they ate beef, buried their dead, wrote right to left, and were good sailors (prohibited in many sects of Hinduism).
The toys are figurines not part of any Hindu pantheon, Ganesh, Ram, Sita (all shown in rural environment). Hinduism is cultrally and erligiously rural, while the IVC was urban
Hinduism stole some IVC symbols, just like they tried to incorporate Buddhism and Jainism into its dharma and used Egyptian practices like Yoga and tried to call them their own
My brother Akbar stated that The IVC was not Hindu..Well you might be right..and for the fact let me tell you neither were they Muslims…b’coz there is almost 5000 years between IVC and Prophet…
Now the point is there is a possibility that the people from IVC had a certain practice and certain religious belief and people from the west called them Indus or Hindus because of the geographic location…
Now what mean here is yes they were not Hindus but were given the name HINDU by the later travelers..Just like Y?h?šu? from Nazareth was given a name “JESUS CHRIST” and people who followed his teaching as Christians…Just like Followers of Prophets teaching are called Muslims. They are just Names given to people who follow a certain tradition or culture..
The Bottom line is
Hinduism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism,Jainism are all they same
Only thing is they were given to us to live a peaceful and pious life by different people in different languages at different times and in different places
Islamic Prophet Moses was a Muslim and he was in Urr and Sumer trading with the IVC which was not Hindu
I beg to differ on Brother Akbar’s view. I guess the term ISLAM and MUSLIMS were coined after Prophet(Correct me if I am wrong)…..
So Moses was before Prophet and how can he be called a Muslim??????
Accepted that all these men are related in one way or another but that does not mean that Moses was Muslim…if he is then so are rest of the prophets are Muslims then why did they call the religion as ISLAM before Prophet?????
The Quran clealry says that Abraham was a Muslim, as was Moses.
The first prophet of Islam was Adam, and so on and so forth.
I am always amazed at the lack of knowledge Indians have about Islam–their temple indoctrination does not allow them to look at the real picture
SECULAR,
Did Moses follow Judaism think not.
Did Abraham follow Judaism think not.
Did Jesus follow Judaism or Christianity think not.
All the monotheistic prophets followed the religion of peace, peace from understanding who your creator is.
All monotheistic “Semitic” prophets believed in Al-Elah The one true God and followed a complete way of life as decreed by our creator by submitting our humanely vices by following the will through revelations of our creator.
The fundamental universal greeting of all prophets was Salam or Slalom, Ashalom Alaykom in Hebrew/Aramaic or Asalam Alaykum in Arabic.
We come to you with Peace the fundamental message from your Lord.
Peace is Shalom or Salam.
If you action something you place the Mu’ infront of it.
Muslim is the one actions the faith of Shalom or Salam and Islam is the global name for that faith.
We Muslims uphold everything from Adam and follow organised monotheism that began with Prophet Abraham pbuh, we uphold the convent or promise made to Abraham our father by The One True God. We follow the Torah the revelation not man made rabbinic teachings, we follow the Zaboor and Ingel or in Anglo Saxon means Evan-jeel.
We do not follow man made innovations and The Qu’ran stands the test of time remains the unchanged literal word of God initially is the Laws or Torah, we Evangelise better than any Christian and in it we have The real Injeel and completed message through the final prophet we have the Qu’ran The recital.
When we recite the Qu’ran we include a recital of the Laws or Torah and what was revealed to Jesus pbuh amdwhat was revealed before them and to Muhammad SaaS, a complete recital of The Complete recital.
We Muslims follow the faith of Peace by knowing our place in the great scheme of things, our Creator, The Angels and Hell and Heaven.
Following the faith of Peace means inner peace nourishment of the soul and we have our communion with our Lord there is no better feeling of inner peace.
Do not confuse this Peace to mean we as a people or faith are passive on the contrary we follow the wisdom of Abraham pbuh and the Laws of passed onto Moses and with conviction with zeal we protect every word from our Lord and our Lord has given us the full right to defend our faith, community, family, livelihood and right in the same way as other nations do.
SECULAR.
IVC is defined by the rivers and people.
We live along those rivers and we are the modern lineage of the IVC people.
We inherit it, it belongs to us as it is is our heritage.
The heritage of Kashmir, Punjabis, Pakthuns, Balochis and Sindhis and our religion is Islam.
We are the heir to our rich civilisation and history it isn’t defined by faith but geography, people and it is US and NOT you.
We made a mistake allowing your kind to hijack our history that is our failing and we owe it to ourselves to reclaim our heritage and history from the British legacy along with our lands.
Sometimes as Muslims we shy away from our non Muslim past and this is wrong and allows another people to lay claim to the IVC.
We do not want this region and waters dirtied by the followers of thumb Melanie The Ganges people. Their hearts as black and dirty as the waters and I will not go into ethnicity.
Apologies I meant that the modern IVC – Pakistan does not want our lands and waters dirtied by the followers of Khumb Mela from The Ganges basin.
Typos because of touch sensitive mobile devices…