Talks fail: Bharat unable to browbeat Pakistan

As expected the the talks in Sham El Shikh have failed. Bharat tried to use “complain diplomacy“ and tried to impose dialogue as a reward for good behaviour. Pakistan reciprocated with bringing up Kashmir, Water, and the progress on Samjhota Express terrorism. The Bharti media had whipped Delhi into a frenzy with false expectation. Bharat was sadly disappointed if it was foolishly looking for some sort of mea culpa from Pakistan and some sort of super sovereignty over Pakistani decisions, Pakistani justice, Pakistani police and Pakistani intelligence services. Delhi’s Hubris was tackled with Pakistani resistance, and Bharti arrogance was strafed with Islamabad’s just stance.

  • Bharti treachery on the Indus Water Treaty & Kashmir
  • Peace? Double faced Forest Gump Singh speaks from both side of his mouth
  • Shiviji (Sing)-Afzal Khan (Gilani) meeting in Egypt  
  • Gilani and Singh 2

    Prime Minister Gilani didn’t give an inch. He was firm and forceful. The Makhdoom was ready for any Singh rudeness, and had a few lines ready to respond–luckily Mr. Singh thought it prudent not to repeat his stupidity again this time.  

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Indian insurgency map. Naxal map: The real failed state is "India". Indian 2010: Cracks in "India" map.India cut down to size.Indian insurrection: Naxalte insurgency.

    Indian insurgency map. Naxal map: The real failed state is "India". Indian 2010: Cracks in "India" map.India cut down to size.Indian insurrection: Naxalte insurgency.

     

    : Talks between foreign secretaries of Pakistan and India held in the Egyptian resort town on Tuesday night failed to make any progress on the issue of resumption of composite dialogue.SHEIKH EL SHARM

     

     

     

     

     

    Now observers here are pinning hopes on the prime ministers of the two countries to achieve a breakthrough in their meeting on Thursday.

    The secretaries’ talks which concluded late on Tuesday night made little progress in terms of reaching an agreement on resumption of the stalled dialogue or on a joint statement for the prime ministers’ meeting — the main yardsticks of the success or otherwise of the discussion held at the highest diplomatic level on the sidelines of the NAM summit.

    The talks were important only not for future engagement between the two countries, but also for setting the baseline for the meeting between Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani. At the start of the talks there were some positive signs but these did not yield a concrete outcome after 90 minutes of intense discussions.

    The prospects of any success at the talks were undermined by mixed signals from Islamabad about the appeal filed in the apex court against the release of Jamaatud Dawa chief Hafiz Saeed. Critical of Islamabad’s position on the issue, India adopted a hard line and asked Pakistan to extradite the persons wanted by it, prosecute the Mumbai attack accused and end the corss-LoC movements. There were clear indications that without Pakistan yielding to the Indian position there could be no revival of the structured talks.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Insurrection India:India cracks map of insurgency: Naxalites, Maoists, Seven Sisters, Kashmir, Punkjab, Tamil

    Insurrection India:India cracks map of insurgency: Naxalites, Maoists, Seven Sisters, Kashmir, Punkjab, Tamil

     

    terrorist attack, Pakistan wouldn’t agree to joint statement by the two prime ministers after their Thursday meeting.Mumbai, asserted that without India agreeing to resumption of the dialogue which it suspended in the aftermath of Hashmi Afrasiyab and Director-General South Asia at the Foreign Office Malik Shahid included Pakistan’s High Commissioner in New Delhi Bashir SalmanThe Pakistani side, which besides Foreign Secretary

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Pakistan also proposed a ‘trajectory of meetings’ for further engagement, including another meeting of the leadership of both countries on the sidelines of UN General Assembly session, convening of the Joint Anti-Terrorism Mechanism meeting and a meeting of the interior ministers. However, because of the deadlock over resumption of Composite Dialogue not much could be achieved on these issues.

    The Seat warmer Premier of Bharat failed to intimidate the Makhdoom from Multan. There was no mention of mandate or Mr. Singh would be reminded that the only reason he is Prime Minister is because of Sonya. The Makhdoom went to Sharm El Sheik from a position of strength. He has spent several years in jail and has earned his stripes to be the PM–Premiership wasn’t bequeathed to him by a foreigner.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Indian insurrection: Naxalte insurgency. Future India map

    Indian insurrection: Naxalte insurgency. Future India map

    The Pakistani officials reiterated that Islamabad required full cooperation from New Delhi for dealing with terrorism.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    They asked India to acknowledge that Pakistan had done a lot for eliminating terrorism which, sources said, Indian Foreign Secretary Shiv Shankar Menon grudgingly did.

    Pakistan also took up the matter of Indian involvement in subversive activities on its soil and also asked about progress in the Samjhota Express blast probe. Despite the deadlock at the talks, the Pakistani side still appeared to be optimistic and encouraged by the fact that some sort of an engagement was continuing.

    ‘It is important that the foreign secretaries have met and engagement of the political leadership is taking place,’ Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir told media after the talks. However, he cautioned that prolonged suspension of peace talks was not in the interest of either country.

    There have been enough talks with Bharat. Pakistan has tried to discuss Kashmir with Delhi for 60 years. Enough! Pakistan should simply take over Kashmir when Bharat is fighting the Chinese. Talks are useless. Summits are futile. Delhi has no concept on how to deal with border disputes. It has failed to resolve any of them with any of her neighbors. Bharat only understands strength. If Bharat wants peace, it should compensate Pakistan for the stolen water. Bharat should withdraw from Kashmir, Siachin, and Sir Creek. Then there should be talks about Delhi’s illgal occupation of Hyderabad. Bharat has to withdraw from Junagarh and Manvadar. After these there should be talks to discuss the plight of the Dalits and the Bharti Muslims.

    Our man in England Pakbird adds. Look at the statements of arrogant Indians (such as bureaucrat Shivshankar Menon and FM SM Krishna) made during a couple of days just before today’s meeting of the Prime Ministers of the two countries in Egypt. Indians were clearly trying to bluff and blackmail Pakistan. They claimed that the negotiations between the two countries were possible only after a ‘visual and credible’ (read as extra-judicial and illegal) Pakistani action against its own citizens at Indian wishes. Now look at the joint statement, which delinks the issue of terrorism from the dialog, issued after the meeting of the two Premiers. The Indians have clearly licked their own spitting – not for the first time, BTW – during the negotiations. But the question is how the Pakistani interlocutors achieved that feat. Indians, on one hand, condemn terrorism loudly at every platform. And they, on the other hand, have been and are still using terrorism as a tool for achieving their foreign policy goal. Their involvement in terrorism in FATA and Balochistan is not a secret any more. They are equally involved in serious acts of terrorism in Afghanistan and Iran too. Indians have blood on their hands for killing tens of thousands of Sri Lankans through Indian created and supported terrorists of LTTE. The case of other small neighboring countries (Nepal, BD, and Bhutan) is not different either. Hindus are acting as bloody vampires all along their short history of independence in 1947. The Indian Prime Minister, Mr. Munna Singh, was busy giving a sermon at NAM summit while pretending as a victim of terrorism. Indians, in fact, are not really the victims but rather perpetrators of terrorism. It would have been wonderful if Pakistan could distribute some convincing material with proofs of Indian involvement in the terrorism in FATA and Balochistan to show the real ugly face of the Indians.

    SHARM EL-SHEIKH (Reuters/AFP/APP) – Pakistan and India agreed on Thursday to work together to fight terrorism and ordered their top diplomats to meet as often as needed to try to rebuild ties damaged by last year’s Mumbai attacks.

    But Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, speaking after talks with his Pakistani counterpart Yousuf Raza Gilani in Egypt, ruled out a resumption of formal peace talks, known as the ‘composite dialogue’, that Islamabad has been seeking.

    Foreign Policy the new name of PNAC has a conculated twist on the Sino-Indian relationship with Pakistan.

    India has every right to be worried. One new report suggests China may be trying to extend its reach into Kashmir, and possibly even Pakistan. Another hints at the possibility of an imminent Chinese invasion of India:

    ‘China will launch an attack on India before 2012. There are multiple reasons for a desperate Beijing to teach India the final lesson, thereby ensuring Chinese supremacy in Asia in this century,’ Bharat Verma, Editor of the Indian Defence Review, has said.”

    Given the urgency of the situation, it’s possible that India is trying to mend its stormy relationship with Pakistanin order to prevent a Sino-Pakistani partnership, or lay the foundation of a containment policy towards to China from dominating Asia. (See Minxin Pei’s recent article in FP for more on this point.)

    Naturally, India might simply be pursuing cooperation with Pakistan for its own sake. But the move makes good strategic sense. Foreign Policy

    One Response

    1. Look at the statements of arrogant Indians (such as bureaucrat Shivshankar Menon and FM SM Krishna) made during a couple of days just before today’s meeting of the Prime Ministers of the two countries in Egypt. Indians were clearly trying to bluff and blackmail Pakistan. They claimed that the negotiations between the two countries were possible only after a ‘visual and credible’ (read as extra-judicial and illegal) Pakistani action against its own citizens at Indian wishes. Now look at the joint statement, which delinks the issue of terrorism from the dialog, issued after the meeting of the two Premiers. The Indians have clearly licked their own spitting – not for the first time, BTW – during the negotiations. But the question is how the Pakistani interlocutors achieved that feat. Indians, on one hand, condemn terrorism loudly at every platform. And they, on the other hand, have been and are still using terrorism as a tool for achieving their foreign policy goal. Their involvement in terrorism in FATA and Balochistan is not a secret any more. They are equally involved in serious acts of terrorism in Afghanistan and Iran too. Indians have blood on their hands for killing tens of thousands of Sri Lankans through Indian created and supported terrorists of LTTE. The case of other small neighboring countries (Nepal, BD, and Bhutan) is not different either. Hindus are acting as bloody vampires all along their short history of independence in 1947. The Indian Prime Minister, Mr. Munna Singh, was busy giving a sermon at NAM summit while pretending as a victim of terrorism. Indians, in fact, are not really the victims but rather perpetrators of terrorism. It would have been wonderful if Pakistan could distribute some convincing material with proofs of Indian involvement in the terrorism in FATA and Balochistan to show the real ugly face of the Indians.

    Leave a Reply

    You must be logged in to post a comment.