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India’s indigenous Tejas is plane under perpetual development. This “plane” has had the longest development cycle of any train, plane or automobile in the history of world. After a decade of false starts, abject failures, the Tejas remains a but of jokes among the engineers, journalists and scientists in the aviation industry. Indian Airforce crying wolf? or facing shortage of jets?

The DRDO has been working on Kaveri engine for past 16 years and after coming up with problems in giving requisite high altitude thrust to the engines decided to float international tenders in 2005 for co-development. India’s first aero-engine ‘Kaveri’ may be ready in 4 years. 9 Nov 2008, 1411 hrs IST, PTI

The Tejas does not have an engine and the Indian Airforce has been unable to provide it one. There are three tracks, all of which lead to cul de sacs. Indian missle failures. Scrap the program?

1) The original plan to indigenously build an engine by HAL and other companies ended is unmitigated failures.

India, after developing and testing nine prototypes of two ‘Kaveri’ engines, decided to seek foreign collaboration as the aero-engine repeatedly failed in high-altitude tests conducted in Russian facilities. India’s first aero-engine ‘Kaveri’ may be ready in 4 years. 9 Nov 2008, 1411 hrs IST, PTI

2) The IAF also presents a plan to purchase GE engines, but the engine mentioned is not powerful enough to thrust the plane into production and beyond.

The initial 40 Tejas are to powered by US General Electric404 engine. But DRDO officials recently said that the GE404 lacked power to enable Tejas to undertake its multi-role capability in full.

But now the Snecma official says the nine-tonne thrust capability and low thrust ratio would give the successive Tejas capability of greater manoeuvrability to undertake air-to-air, air-to-ground as well as carrier-borne operations. India’s first aero-engine ‘Kaveri’ may be ready in 4 years. 9 Nov 2008, 1411 hrs IST, PTI

3) A joint production for the new Kiveri engine with the Russians and other have been put forward. However there are several huge obstacles on this track. Russia elides India in Flanker Su-30 developmentConsidering the US-Indian embrace, and the history of the Russian Aircraft Carrier the Russians are may not be very amenable to pen new agreements for the Transfer of Technology (ToT). India getting stripped down version of Russian FGA. Design has already been frozen. Multinational for profit organizations are not prone to commercial suicide, and less amenable to giving away the “Coke Formula” on how to build engines.

Refusing to be drawn in on where Indian scientists had faced problems in attempts to develop a purely indigenous fighter engine, the Snecma official said that Kaveri would be of nine-tonne capacity engine with low thrust to weight ratio...The initial 40 Tejas are to powered by US General Electric404 engine. But DRDO officials recently said that the GE404 lacked power to enable Tejas to undertake its multi-role capability in full….But now the Snecma official says the nine-tonne thrust capability and low thrust ratio would give the successive Tejas capability of greater manoeuvrability to undertake air-to-air, air-to-ground as well as carrier-borne operations. India’s first aero-engine ‘Kaveri’ may be ready in 4 years. 9 Nov 2008, 1411 hrs IST, PTI

So the Indian machinery do the politically correct thing–they announce new date conveniently after the next Indian elections. They again use the same buzz words, “locally produced”, “full transfer of technology“, and a “firm deadline“.

• Apart from the four-billion Euro turnover company Snecma, Russian NPO Saturn is contending for the bid to co-develop and co-produce Kaveri engine.
• “We have submitted a short and secure four-year plan as the Kaveri engine development time-frame,” said Xavier Sahut D’izarn, Vice President, Military Engines, Snecma group.
• “We will transfer full know-how and the engines would be developed and produced by HAL in India,” D’izarn said.

However what was mot telling in the statement by the head of Snecma was the “gradual transfer of technology” which is a euphemism for sending (transferring) obsolete blueprints to India when there are totally useless and of no commercial value to Snecma. Why else would Snecma send the recipes to Banglore so that Banglore woult cut the throat of Snecma and begin exporting engines itself.

“Its going to be a joint Indo-French engine with shared expertise with gradual transfer of full know-how,” the Snecma Vice President said, adding that while high pressure part of the engine will be produced by Snecma, the low pressure part will be developed by Bangalore-based GTRE, a DRDO subsidiary.

If history is a witness to anything, the “low pressure parts” will be limited to tricolor paint and “chakar” decals.

Failure is nothing new to the Indian defense establishment. Actually, the establishment has yet to show success either in missiles or in tanks. Of course it has had no success in planes.

Trail of tears and failure: Indian missiles. It is hard to explain how a country can send a rocket into space when it cannot produce a missile or a plane. Indian missle failures. Program Scrapped!

The Indo-Russian relationship is at its lowest ebb right now. The declining Indo-Russian relationship. Delhi scrambles for new arms sources but they come with strings.

India as World Power 1

Extremist Hindus revere Hitler and use the Swastika as the Indian flag

India as a Space power!

INDIAN MISSILES

• Indian missle failures. Scrap the program?
• Trail of tears and failure: Indian missiles.

INDIAN TANKS

Indian Arjun vs Pakistani Al-Khalid: A comparitive analysis

INDIA A S SPACE POWER

India as a Space power!

INDIA AS IT POWER

How Poor is India? IT boom affects 6 million only

INDIA AND RUSSIA

• The declining Indo-Russian relationship. Delhi scrambles for new arms sources but they come with strings.
• India getting stripped down version of Russian FGA. Design has already been frozen

IAF AND PAF

Air Forces in South Asia: PAF counters IAF strategy

INDIAN RAW ACTIVITIES

Anatomy of Indian Intelligence Services and Alliances

RAW facts on South Asia- India fails to occupy countries.

LTTE was created by India

Indian sponsored Tamil terror in Sri Lanka continues unabated

Lanka: Indian LTTE terrorists use youth as cannon fodder

Lanka Letter: RAW THE RASCAL by Prem Raj in Columbo

Pakistan Sri Lanka growing military alliance

Growing Pakistan Sri Lanka ties

END OF ARTICLE

APPENDIX

PARIS: India’s first aero-engine ‘Kaveri’ may finally roll out in four years’ time, ending decades of false starts to power the country’s aspirations for an indigenous fighter aircraft.

Under plans being given final touches, European aero-engine major Snecma is expected to join hands with the DRDO to unveil the military jet engine in four years, leading to commercial production of the LCA Tejas multi-role fighters.

Apart from the four-billion Euro turnover company Snecma, Russian NPO Saturn is contending for the bid to co-develop and co-produce Kaveri engine.

The DRDO is expected to shortlist the winner “any time now,” a top Snecma official said and expressed confidence that once the contract is awarded the engines would be ready in four years’ time.

“We have submitted a short and secure four-year plan as the Kaveri engine development time-frame,” said Xavier Sahut D’izarn, Vice President, Military Engines, Snecma group.

India, after developing and testing nine prototypes of two ‘Kaveri’ engines, decided to seek foreign collaboration as the aero-engine repeatedly failed in high-altitude tests conducted in Russian facilities.

Refusing to be drawn in on where Indian scientists had faced problems in attempts to develop a purely indigenous fighter engine, the Snecma official said that Kaveri would be of nine-tonne capacity engine with low thrust to weight ratio.

“We will transfer full know-how and the engines would be developed and produced by HAL in India,” D’izarn said.

“Its going to be a joint Indo-French engine with shared expertise with gradual transfer of full know-how,” the Snecma Vice President said, adding that while high pressure part of the engine will be produced by Snecma, the low pressure part will be developed by Bangalore-based GTRE, a DRDO subsidiary.

The speed up in efforts to give final touches to the development of Kaveri engine assumes significance as Defence Minister A K Anthony has given a go-ahead for commercial production of 150 Tejas fighters.

The initial 40 Tejas are to powered by US General Electric404 engine. But DRDO officials recently said that the GE404 lacked power to enable Tejas to undertake its multi-role capability in full.

But now the Snecma official says the nine-tonne thrust capability and low thrust ratio would give the successive Tejas capability of greater manoeuvrability to undertake air-to-air, air-to-ground as well as carrier-borne operations.

The DRDO has been working on Kaveri engine for past 16 years and after coming up with problems in giving requisite high altitude thrust to the engines decided to float international tenders in 2005 for co-development.

Four companies — US Military Engine leader Pratt and Whitny and GE, European engine maker Snecma and Russian NPO Saturn — responded to the first Request for Proposals (RFP).

The RFP was modified and re-floated in 2006 extending the requirements from co-development to include co-production, as western companies were not forthcoming for mere co-development. India’s first aero-engine ‘Kaveri’ may be ready in 4 years. 9 Nov 2008, 1411 hrs IST, PTI

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