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| RUPEE NEWS | October 13th, 2008 | Moin Ansari | ???? ??????? | ????? ????? |
Using polite language, and some pretty lame excuses, the Russians have politely but firmly refused to participate in the joint production of missiles with India. This creates a huge bugbear for the problem-prone missile production of India. Most of Indian “indigenous” missile production is the doldrums. We have been reporting the issues with the Indian Missiles for years. Trail of tears and failure: Indian missiles (http://rupeenews.com/2008/05/26/trail-of-tears-and-failure-indian-missiles/). India has either scrapped the production of Agni, Akash, Prithvi, Trishul, Nag etc or is seeking foreign collaboration. US commercial enterprises have offered to sell a few of the missiles but commercial companies do not divulge their secret recopies to client–that would be economic suicide for the multinationals. Their production methods are as secret as the “coca cola” formula.
The Mail Today newspaper on Wednesday quoted the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) as announcing that it would scrap its 25-year Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme (IGMDP) by the end of this year. Plagued by cost overruns and repeated failures, the announcement is a virtual admission of failure,” the newspaper said.“In fact, some former chiefs of the different services said as much on hearing the news.” Rupee News May 26th, 2008
The India LCA is in a perpetual design cycle, even after a decade. It still being “developed” with a new engine. Russia shafted the Indian in the design of the Mig 29s. The jointly developed fighter is due for flight tests in March of 2010 and Russia still has not picked an Indian contractor or the parts that are to be manufactured in Inda. It is shipping a stripped down version of the aircraft.
India exposed by missile failure By Praful Bidwai NEW DELHI – The failure in rapid succession this week of a satellite launcher and a new ballistic missile have shown up the technological and budgetary difficulties faced by India’s space establishment – civilian and military
The Agni-III was originally meant to be tested in 2003-04. However, the test was postponed owing to technological snags. After their rectification, said reports, the missile’s test flights were put off twice largely for “political reasons”, so as not to annoy the US.
the Indian Missile program has been the butt of jokes around the world. Not surprisingly the Pakistanis are laughing at the failure of the Indian missiles.
Agni Missile designers are incompetent: Pakistan scientist Daily India ^ | 7/9/06 Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 7:20:03 AM by maxypane Islamabad, July 10 (IANS) The failure of Agni-III reflected ‘incompetence’ of the Indian missile designers and planners, said an eminent Pakistani scientist.
Indian missiles far from being operational despite repeated tests IRNA – Islamic Republic News Agency New Delhi, July 24,IRNA — The Trishul “quick-reaction” surface-to- air missile was again tested on Sunday, but just like its sister Akash missile it is still far from being inducted into the armed forces.
New Delhi, Jan. 8: India has wound up its guided missile programme 24 years after it was launched, jettisoning the political philosophy of isolated self-reliance in military technology. The burial of the Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme (IGMDP) founded by A.P.J. Abdul Kalam in July 1983 was couched in claims by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) that it has delivered all five missile systems that the plan envisaged. Susan Dutta
The Pakistanis by contrast have developed their missiles and have been very successful at it.
Pakistan missile project ahead of India’s’NEW DELHI, Jan 9: India’s missile scientists have said that the country’s indigenous missile programme is flagging and needs foreign assistance to revive it. The embarrassing admission came amid claims by Indian analysts that Pakistan’s missile programme had proved to be more robust and surefooted than India’s. The Mail Today newspaper on Wednesday quoted the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) as announcing that it would scrap its 25-year Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme (IGMDP) by the end of this year.
India is also facing huge problems with its defense collaboration in other areas also. Russia is refusing to assist India in the joint design and production of aircraft.
Designs for the PAK-FA have already been frozen by the Sukhoi design bureau, which means that Indian aircraft engineers have already missed out on the critical knowledge curve of aircraft design. Also, the unequal status of the Indian and Russian aviation industries means India will be the junior partner contributing very little except finance. “So if we have missed out on the design phase, we have to analyse the cost-benefits of acquiring only super cruise and stealth technology for $ 10 billion,” asks Air Vice Marshal Kak.New Delhi, September 29, 2008 India Today
Each Russian FGA will come with 3 Buckets of Tri-Colored paint and “Made In India” decals which will be sent to India to complete the “joint design and production”
“We are in the process of defining what part of the contract to give to the Indian production agencies,” said Alexey Fedorov, president of the United Aircraft Corporation, the umbrella organization of Russian fixed-wing aircraft manufacturers New Delhi, September 29, 2008 India Today
Russia’s UAC to co-develop hypersonic BrahMos missile only if Russian Air Force interested news
07 October 2008 
Moscow: Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) will participate in the joint development of a new cruise missile with India only if the Russian Air Force opts for it, so said the head of this umbrella organisation for Russian aircraft manufacturers last week.
“Our participation will be certain only if we receive an official request to equip Russian fighters, the Su-MKI in particular, with these missiles. So far we have not received such a request,” said UAC president Alexey Fyodorov.
The UAC includes Ilyushin, Tupolev, Sukhoi, Antonov and Mikoyan, as well as companies involved in distribution of aircraft. It was set up last year to streamline the country’s aircraft-building industry.
Last month, Russia and India announced plans to jointly develop a hypersonic cruise missile, now dubbed as the BrahMos-2 . The new missile will have a top speed of over Mach 5 and will match similar developments taking place around the world.
BrahMos Aerospace is a joint Indo-Russian venture that designs, produces and markets BrahMos supersonic missiles, whose sea and land-based versions have been successfully tested and inducted by the Indian army and navy.
The head of BrahMos Aerospace, Dr A Sivathanu Pillai, had said earlier that the joint venture had finished development of an airborne version of the missile and was awaiting suitable modification of Su-30MKI fighters for trials.
As with most Russian projects, the modification programme is considerably behind schedule with Sukhoi designers caught up with development work on the Su-35 fighter programme.
The BrahMos supersonic missile is capable of carrying a conventional warhead of up to 300 kg (660 pounds) to a range of 290 km (180 miles). It can hit ground targets flying at an altitude as low as 10 meters (30 feet) at a top speed of Mach 2.8. It is unique in that it is the only supersonic missile currently in service any where in the world.
BrahMos Aerospace has said that Indian armed forces could purchase up to 1,000 of these missiles over the next decade, and would also look towards exporting 2,000 to other countries in the same period.
Pakistan’s 250 JF-17s, 50 F-16: Indias panicky “concern”
JF-17 Thunders
Beyond the JF-17 Thunders. The J-10s etc.
The Y-89 AWACS
Hataf, Ghauri, Babar, Abdali missiles
Su-27s and Su-35
I think it is a good idea for Russia not to help India. India has shown to be a very flaky ally in the past decade when it embraced the US.
It has to be understood by the Goverment Of India,that privatisation of Defence Industries in India is a right solution for speedy developments,else loose billions purchasing arm equipments to them who won’t transfer technology.
It has to be understood by the Indian Government that instead of wasting billions of currency buying arms and equipments,the speed is what required for Indian Defense Industries and for that the Privatisation is the only option.
Dear Mr. Bhole:
Thank you so very much for your kind comments.
http://rupeenews.com/2008/03/24/india-as-a-world-power-part-1/
Please see:
http://rupeenews.com/2008/10/21/india-score-worse-than-barkino-faso-on-hunger-index-edges-out-haiti-worst-in-south-asia/
Best Regards,
Moin
India’s weapons purchases have hit a major roadblock with its biggest defence supplier, Russia, refusing to sign the mandatory integrity pact for defence contracts.Under the present defence procurement procedures, every defence contract worth more than Rs 100 crore must be accompanied by an integrity pact, an undertaking that no arms agents are involved and no commissions have been paid.Authoritative sources in the Ministry of Defence told DNA that intense negotiations are underway between the Ministry of Defence and Russian representatives to ensure that the latter’s stand do not “delay” India’s defence modernisation and massive procurement programmes.The Russians have told the MOD that some clauses of the integrity pact “collide with” the domestic laws of the country. However, sources are refusing to confirm if the Russian reservations has got to do with the pact demanding an explicit commitment against payment of commissions and appointment of agents.Under the integrity pact, if it is found that either side had agents or paid commissions then criminal cases can be initiated by India and the other side has to cooperate. Arms dealers are banned under the defence procurement policy 2006.“We are trying to find a via media,” a source told DNA when questioned about the stand off.Russia is India’s biggest defence supplier and most dependable partner. Some $10 billion worth of defence contracts are now in the pipeline. However, any ‘fresh contracts’ will have to wait till India and Russia resolve the standoff over the integrity pact.“We can not give up the integrity pact because it is integral part of the DPP (Defence Procurement Policy) 2006. So, we will have to find an amicable settlement without compromising on our procurement policy,” a source said.Partly because of the complications arising out of the complications thrown up by Russian stand, India is now only pursuing existing contracts and “repeat orders”.The proposed purchase of 40 more Sukhoi 30 fighters and more than 300 T-90 tanks may go through because they are “repeat orders”, and may only require a negotiation about the present prices based on the original contracts signed earlier, sources said. But a final word can be said only after “negotiations are carried out,” they added. India has allocated Rs 41,922 crore in this fiscal for defence purchases.A slew of major purchases are in the pipeline, including 126 multi-role combat aircraft for IAF, substantial number of helicopters for all three forces, over Rs 30,000 crore worth of battleships, massive radar and other surveillance equipment purchases, etc where Russian equipment are leading contenders.