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| RUPEE NEWS | September 21st, 2008 | Moin Ansari | ???? ??????? | ????? ????? | There is a plethora of material available in the Bharti media about Pakistan. There is a pathological hatred for anything Pakistani. Indian Defense analysts, even former ambassadors write scathing columns challenging the very basis of the Pakistani nationhood and want to instate “Akhand Bharat” a ephemeral and imagined ”country” stretching from Afghanistan to Indonesia based on a mythical figure called Ashoka (whose name first appeared during British times).
Some American politicians mention Pakistani paranoia about Indian intentions. It just doesn’t grow, it thrives on the Pakistanphobic attitude of Indian analysts, Indian politicians and Indian actions against Pakistan.
Those who espouse appeasement should read the following article published in the Indian Defense Review. Indian Intelligence RAW: Recent 2008 strikes inside Pakistan
To defend this key threat to the Union, New Delhi should extend its influence through export of both soft and hard power towards Central Asia, from where invasions have been mounted over centuries. The cessation of Pakistan as a state facilitates furtherance of this pivotal national objective.
For New Delhi this opens a window of opportunity to ensure that the Gwadar port does not fall into the hands of the Chinese. In this, there is synergy between the political objectives of the Americans and the Indians. Our existing goodwill in Baluchistan requires intelligent leveraging.
Sindh and most of the non-Punjabi areas of Pakistan will be our new friends.
Pakistan’s breakup will be a major setback to the Jihad Factory, which functions with the help of its army and the ISI. This in turn will ease pressures on India and the international community. Bharat Verma: Indian Defense Review:-(most-quoted Indian defence publication”.)
If Mr. Bharat Verma was an anomoly–it would be something. This is the thinking of not only of the majority of the Indian politicians, but also of a majority of the Indian News media outlets, but also the thinking of the Indian Defense establishment.
Looking ahead, New Delhi should formulate an appropriate strategy for ‘post-Pakistan scenario’ to secure India’s interests in Central Asia.
It is intriguing, therefore, to hear New Delhi mouthing the falsehood that stable Pakistan is in India’s favour. Perpetuation of such illogic for vote-bank politics is harming the consolidation and integration of the Union.Indian Defense Review:-Bharat Verma
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Capt. Bharat Vermais the editor of Indian Defence Review. A quarterly journal read by leading policy makers at senior bureaucratic, political and military levels, the IDR is renowned as the “most-quoted Indian defence publication”. Capt. Verma is also the founder and current editor of Lancer Publishers, a publishing house dedicated to defence and security matters.Indians pose the biggest threat to the Union of India.
The reason is simple. An average Indian is merely an individual. His personal well-being overrides all other considerations, including national interests.
Column: Indian Army, foreign hand
This is perhaps why many have begun to propagate parting of Kashmir in their write-ups, since it does not belong individually to them. However, imagine the hue and cry if their personal property and family is held hostage by the terrorists. They will sing a different tune.
The blame lies with New Delhi. For the past 60 years, instead of consolidating the Union, leaders encouraged divisiveness on the basis of religion and caste for sheer vote bank politics. Instead of unifying its citizenry with good governance and increasing their stakes through prosperity, so that they may serve the cause of the nation with honor, it has treated its citizens with unprecedented shabbiness.
The result: groups of citizens have risen against the state, mostly for lack of economic progress and denial of justice. Such disgruntled groups are being taken advantage of by the external forces inimical to India.
There can never be unity in diversity. Unity requires a fair amount of uniformity in laws throughout the Union.
That New Delhi is its own worst enemy became obvious when it permitted the creation of a pure Islamic State on its borders. This nation-state contradicts every democratic and multi-cultural value dear to India. Therefore, if New Delhi has not slept a wink since the creation of Pakistan, it has no one except itself to blame!
Islamabad, besides the wars it imposed on New Delhi, extended its so-called Islamic purity to the Kashmir Valley by instigating the locals to carry out ethnic cleansing of the minority communities.
Hence, first we created a state with inbuilt characteristic of fundamentalism and extreme philosophy contrary to our professed beliefs; then the monster in it started ethnic cleansing in the Valley; and engineered demographic changes through Bangladesh in West Bengal, Assam and the Northeast.
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Saudi Arabia and other Islamic oil-rich countries pitched in with the petro-dollars in support, all in the cause of the illusion called Ummah and the establishment of the Caliphate.
The Indian leadership, for its personal vote-bank gains, helped these inimical forces by invoking the Illegal Migrants (determination by Tribunals) or IMDT Act in Assam, which was subsequently shot down by the Supreme Court. The damage was done, as the Union’s overburdened security forces grapple with 15 million illegal Bangladesh infiltrators creating mayhem on Indian soil.
Islamabad, Dhaka, and now Kathmandu, spurred on by Beijing, have united with the singular agenda: to unhook the Valley and the Northeast from the Indian Union.
In addition, they are instigating the Maoists, who control almost 40 n per cent of the Union’s territory, to set up a parallel government, and ultimately, like the Maoists in Nepal, win the elections in pockets of their influence, and impose a regressive authoritarian governments in tune with their own regime. and yet, New Delhi, instead of consolidating and unifying the Union , continues to divide its citizenry in religious or caste denominations.
Over the past 60 years, New Delhi’s muddle-headed policies actually encouraged separatism. Instead of ensuring diffusion of secular pan-Indian culture and the integration of the society by encouraging Indians from all over to buy and develop land and industry in the Valley and the Northeast, it imposed restrictions on such settlements.
Meanwhile, Pakistan and Bangladesh exported their fundamentalist population to these areas to change the demographic hues in their favour. The ugly separatist face of the agitation in the Valley today is the consequence of the dereliction of the fundamental duty by the Union.
The trend needs to be reversed forcibly by integrating the Valley firmly into the Indian mainstream by creating a secular mix of population through industrialisation.
Many conveniently propose the myth that a stable Pakistan is in India’s favour. This is a false proposition. The truth is that Pakistan is bad news for the Indian Union since 1947–stable or otherwise.
Islamabad has enjoyed brief periods of political stability since the birth of Pakistan. But even during these interludes, it continued to export terrorism, fake currency and narcotics to India. It continued its attempts to change the demography along our borders, and cultivated sleeper cells and armed groups inside our territory to create an uprising at an appropriate time.
Also, it aligned with Beijing and other powers, in a mutually beneficial scheme, to tie-down and ultimately cause a territorial split of the Union.
With Pakistan on the brink of collapse due to massive internal as well as international contradictions, it is matter of time before it ceases to exist.
Multiple benefits will accrue to the Union of India on such demise.
If Indian national interests are defined with clarity and prioritised, the foremost threat to the Union (and for centuries before its birth) has consistently and continuously materialised on the western periphery.
To defend this key threat to the Union, New Delhi should extend its influence through export of both soft and hard power towards Central Asia, from where invasions have been mounted over centuries. The cessation of Pakistan as a state facilitates furtherance of this pivotal national objective.
The self-destructive path that Islamabad chose will either splinter the state into many parts or it will wither away—a case of natural progression to its logical conclusion. In either case Baluchistan will achieve independence.
For New Delhi this opens a window of opportunity to ensure that the Gwadar port does not fall into the hands of the Chinese. In this, there is synergy between the political objectives of the Americans and the Indians. Our existing goodwill in Baluchistan requires intelligent leveraging.
Sindh and most of the non-Punjabi areas of Pakistan will be our new friends.
Pakistan’s breakup will be a major setback to the Jihad Factory, which functions with the help of its army and the ISI. This in turn will ease pressures on India and the international community.
With China’s one arm, i.e. Pakistan disabled, its expansionist plans will receive a severe jolt. Beijing continues to pose another primary threat to New Delhi. Even as we continue to engage with it as constructively as possible, we must strive to remove the proxy.
At the same time, it is prudent to extend moral support to the people of Tibet to sink Chinese expansionism in the morass of insurgency. For a change, let us do to them what they do to us.
With Pakistan gone, the chances of Central Asia getting infected with the Jihadifervour will recede. Afghanistan will gain fair amount of stability. India’s access to Central Asian energy routes will open up.
With disintegration of ISI’s inimical activities of infiltration and pushing of fake currency into India, from Nepal and Bangladesh will cease. Within the Union social harmony will improve enormously. Export of Islamic fundamentalism, with its 360-degree sweep from Islamabad, will vanish. Even a country like Thailand will heave a sigh of relief.
Above all, the gathering threat from a united group of authoritarian regimes along our 14,000 km borders, orchestrated and synchronised by Pakistan, will dissolve.
At the height of the recent disturbances in the Valley, when a general asked me for a suggestion to resolve the issue, I said: “ Remove Pakistan. The threat will disappear permanently.” Today the collapse of Pakistan as a state is almost certain. All the King’s men cannot save it from itself.
Looking ahead, New Delhi should formulate an appropriate strategy for ‘post-Pakistan scenario’ to secure India’s interests in Central Asia.
It is intriguing, therefore, to hear New Delhi mouthing the falsehood that stable Pakistan is in India’s favour. Perpetuation of such illogic for vote-bank politics is harming the consolidation and integration of the Union.
Short-sighted politicians as usual are overlooking the national interest for the short-term personal gains of a few votes.
The writer is Editor, Indian Defence Review. bharat.verma@indiandefencereview.com
Thanks moin brother for bringing to light the scarfaced indian bigotry. They have always been and will remain so sweet coated poisonous pills. Just cant imagine any sane person trusting this back stabber.
A fine specimen of the Indian temple indoctrination–the comments full of sound and fury signifying nothing.
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hello well we can see here true mindset of so called educated lot of indians so hateful of facts. alas they were realistic to quote clausewitz he says an i quote as long as people of an area are not settling down with a foreign power insurgency would stay u call it guerilla war terror or suit any terminology u chhose to but fact remains people of india mainland as well as controvercially annexed state of jammu and kashmir are not heppy with indian union. instead of improving their lot indian establishment choose a false image building as a global power. peoeple have limited access to basic facalities clean drinking water an food. How can a saner nation which is so poor an underdeveloped spend so much of defence and do u have a threat no not at all . Pakistan is 1/10 of india China is not geographically located to threaten india then why have 1.5 m army> an so much of misiles an let poor dalits be starved wont grant them rights to be treated like humans.Treat muslims christains and budhas as malichs be ashamed we are in 21st century not in stone ages . Better update ur vocabulary and definations for so called terrorism as has ur chief mentor America done it. Better wake up an feel responsible as a nation an have pity on 1/6 of humanity pz
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Salam wale kum
Danger to Pakistanis is more from Taliban and Fundamentalists not from India . Stop meddling with India and live like decent neighbours what is with others neighbours.Dont get carried away by nefarious propaganda by Moin Ansari who is misinforming pakistani people. Thousands of Kilometres borders lie with China and Chinese missiles are statione in Tibbet , all sattelite pictures have shown.
You are very poor nation , 50% of your population does not have access to education clean drinking water and sanitation. Suffering from Roti-Kapra-Makan still you waste 40% your income in defence . It is your business.
Poors are every where IN USA UK Europe sleeping on footpath . You and Bangladesh share the highest numbers poors and veru high percetage of population are below the poverty line .
Minorities have no rights , they 2nd class cityzen. Shias are massacred daily and even they are not bale to worship propperly. So is the case with Ahmadia.
poor people dont have land , In India Landlords are abolished their land has been ditributed among the poors who were ploughing the land . In other case still landlords in Pakistan holds thousands acres of land . Succesive Presidents and PM has siphoned away the wealth of Pkistan to foreign country. They go to self exiled for afew years of self exiled and return to do the same thing . Instead of building the society of Pakistan, pillars of democratic institution ( Election commission, Audtor general , Parliament ,Judiciary) , you are involved in India bashing , propagating terrorism in world and selling narcotics which even Islam does not allow .
Paying lot of money to separatists to do heinous crime . Most of terrorst are hiding in Pakistan even bluntlt told by UK PM , US President and France President .
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Very hard to read your cut and paste. Your comments are dated and do not represent Delhi’s thinking this week (which has dramatically changed its tune after the snub in London, Istabul and Teheran on Afghanistan).
You seem to be addressing the audience of Rupee News and using it as a pulpit. Please submit comments if you have any. Your rhetorical lecture on telling Pakistanis who their enemies are is pathetic and stinks of hubris. Pakistanis know who their enemies are–its the Shiv Senas, the Bajrang Dals, the RSS and the BJP to some extent. Its the Brahman ideology that wants to impose hegemony on Sikkim, Bhutan, Lanka, China, Bangladesh, Nepal, Burma and Pakistan.
Even the Hindustan Times now admits that Mumbai was an inside job carried on by someone in the Indian INtelligence agency
The world has not bought your theories. Please read the two articles in the Times of India (http://rupeenews.com/2010/02/07/the-neighbourhood-get-more-dangerous-for-india/) and the Hindustan Times (http://rupeenews.com/2010/02/07/vindicated-pakistan-afghan-gatekeep-asseritive-with-india/) of yesterday–reposted with comments on our site–how the world has rejected Bharat’s role in Afghanistan, and TOTALLY rejected the rhetoric on terror etc. Delhi itself has made a U-Turn and is starting a composite dialogue with Pakistan.
http://rupeenews.com/2010/02/08/false-flag-inside-job-indian-intelligent-agent-was-involved-in-mumbai-blast/
http://rupeenews.com/2010/02/07/indias-limited-options-in-post-us-afghanistan/
Hlaf the population of the cities of Bharat sleeps on the sidewalks. You don’t see that in Pakistan or any other country in Asia. “Poverty Line” is a farce that Bharat has created. By Bharati poverty standards–Sub Saharan Africans are milionaires. Talk in Dollars man. 40% of the worlds poor live in Bharat. 75% of the population of Bharat lives under $2 per day. For sixty years Bharat has the lowest Per Capita Gross National Product (GNP). 450 million Dalits and Untouchables don’t have any rights in Bharat. Please read Dr. Kancha’s book “Post-Hindu India” which discusses the conversion of all Dalits to Islam, Christianity and Buddhism. This is the futgure of Bharat a rump 100 million Hindus in a sea of Non-Hindus divided in 50 states in varying degree of independence
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Dear Ansari Saheb
Salam
I appreciate your offer and thank for the same. I am not irresponible person to abuse editorial board of yours . My aim is to put forwards my ideas and opinion based on commonly accepted postion. What I will get abusing your board or Pakistanis who are brothers and share same culture and race . For the Time being read this news of Times of India as you are fond printing articles written in IndianNews paper and Mags.
Taliban-Pak army links deepening?
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NEW DELHI: More and more Pakistan army officers are being identified with extremist beliefs, as well as with links to Taliban and other related
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organisations which is the greater worry inside Pakistan.
In the most recent instance, one Colonel Shahid Nazir and two colleagues, serving army and air force officers, were arrested in Balochistan and court-martialled in Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK). They were charged with passing on information to guide terrorist attacks on military establishments inside Pakistan.
The charges were serious. The three officers are members of Hizbul Tehrir, an extremist Islamist group. They were accused of passing on information to the Taliban and later, two civilians were arrested trying to attack the Shamsi air base in Balochistan.
Pakistan has been battling the steady ingress by Taliban sentiments among its officer corps, even though its been long a fact that recruitment for the Pakistan army and the extremist organisations happen from the same provinces, sometimes same villages, making the connections much deeper than otherwise appreciated.
The seriousness of this came to light when a group calling itself Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan actually protested against the court-martial of these officers in Kotli, PoK.
This was unusual, specially since the TTP, for the first time, set off explosions in PoK, raising worries about Taliban infestation in a province that has been relatively free of them. In fact, a TTP spokesperson there said they had set off the explosions as a mark of protest.
The reason why their trial for treason was moved to PoK from Balochistan on January 15 was that under local laws, the accused cannot appeal the decision in the appellate court. Only PoK residents are allowed to do so. This means the military court would be the final arbiter.
Security sources here said that many other army officers, held for links with the Taliban or al-Qaida, have been declared deserters and brought to Kotli cantonment. Remember, even David Headley, alias Daood Gilani, and Tahawwur Rana, caught in the US for planning the 26/11 Mumbai attacks, were also graduates of a Pakistani military school in Hasan Abdal.
Former CIA official and author Robert Baer was quoted as saying that the Pakistan army and ISI links to Taliban militants are so deep that it was impossible to root them out. It is too deep in the army. They can’t root it out. The real question is, is this Taliban influence spreading to Punjab, Sindh and other parts of the country? That is the real worry, said Baer.
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Obviously the US, the UK, Turkey, the EU, China and Russia had not bought into this Delhi propaganda–that is why they rebuffed Delhi in London, and allowed Pakistan to hold negotiations with the Taliban.
The world has not bought your theories. Please read the two articles in the Times of India (http://rupeenews.com/2010/02/07/the-neighbourhood-get-more-dangerous-for-india/) and the Hindustan Times (http://rupeenews.com/2010/02/07/vindicated-pakistan-afghan-gatekeep-asseritive-with-india/) of yesterday–reposted with comments on our site–how the world has rejected Bharat’s role in Afghanistan, and TOTALLY rejected the rhetoric on terror etc. Delhi itself has made a U-Turn and is starting a composite dialogue with Pakistan.
http://rupeenews.com/2010/02/08/false-flag-inside-job-indian-intelligent-agent-was-involved-in-mumbai-blast/
http://rupeenews.com/2010/02/07/indias-limited-options-in-post-us-afghanistan/
The mentality that wrote that article has been rejected by the world.
That is why Delhi is back on the negotiating table with Pakistan and has agreed to a results oreinted composite dialogue with deadlines.
When you do copy and past, please copy only the pertinent part of the essay/story. Please do not post the ads, and twitter etc.
Thanks
Dear Mr.Moin,
Everything you write is an eye opener for various people and many are benefited. I would like to request you to kindly forward this article to the higher authorities like the supreme court and the army, who could do the required.
You will be happy to note that many of the “highere authorities” read our site–even diplomats like Hillary Clinton. We try to feed the political parties with ideas through stapins.org. A very serious site–some of it is password protected with sensitive info.
Paranoia is detrimental to being sane
Their dream of annihilating Pakistan is same as the impossibility of Koka and Vikoka defeating the Kalki Avatar.
I have been laughing so much that it made me hungry. I think I’ll eat a whole cow today.
Yo Hindus! You have any more jokes?………I really enjoyed this one.
Assalamu-Elekum
1)Pakistan should first stop disobelience to God,
2)Pakistan should fight and take back kashmir from India,
Or else, it may starve to death from food and water,
3) There will be extreme hardship now but relief later.
or
face death and destruction.
Bharat Verma,
“At the same time, it is prudent to extend moral support to the people of Tibet to sink Chinese expansionism in the morass of insurgency. For a change, let us do to them what they do to us.”
What Chinese expansionism you are talking about? It is India that is engaging in expansionism. Listen to this podcast:
http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/podcasts/India_China_Border.mp3