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Text of report from Jang forum hosted by Raja Javed Ali Bhatti on 27 July in Jang Office, Rawalpindi headlined “ISI a thorn in eyes of Pakistan’s enemies: Jang Forum Participants” published by Pakistani newspaper Jang on 28 July Rawalpindi: The Jangforum participants recently have said that India will dispatch one mountain division of its Army to Afghanistan with the support of Karzai under the pretext of the Kabul bomb blast.
“The Inter-Services Intelligence [ISI] is a thorn in the eyes of enemies of Pakistan. The Research and Analysis Wing [RAW] of India has separate anti-Pakistan designs, and the strategy of the Indian intelligence against Pakistan has come to the light now. The United States, however, has vindicated ISI from the charge of Kabul suicide attack.”
These views were expressed by the participants of the Jang forum on the topic “Afghan, and Indian Propaganda Campaign against Pakistan and the ISI.”
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Air Marshal [retired] Ayaz Khan, a distinguished defence analyst, Maj-Gen [retd] Jamshed Ayaz, former head of ISI analysis wing and president of the Institute of Regional Studies, Major General [retd] Zahirul Islam Abbasi, former commander of the northern forces, and Colonel [retd] Ghulam Sarwar Chima, and some of the former federal ministers were among the participants of the Jang forum.
Air Marshal [retd] Ayaz Khan said that after suicide bomb attack outside the Indian Embassy in Kabul, a forceful diplomatic campaign against the ISI, Pakistan, and Pakistan Army has been launched; Moreover, India has said that about 2,000 Indian soldiers will be deployed for the security of the Indian Embassy in Kabul at the recommendation of the Indian Army headquarters. In this way, one brigade of the Indian Army will be dispatched to provide security to the Indian Consulates and Indian construction companies working on a large scale in Afghanistan. The first two brigades will be from the same mountain division. It is clear that it is the Indian plan to deploy 15,000 soldiers in Afghanistan with the support of Afghan President Hamed Karzai under the pretext of suicide attack outside the Indian Embassy in Kabul. Speakers Talk on India, Afghan Propaganda Against Pakistan, Intelligence Agency By: iStockAnalyst Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:55 AM.Originally published by Jang, Rawalpindi in Urdu, 28 Jul 08, pp 3, 6.
It will have very serious consequences. The Karzai government in Kabul has aired a hoax against Kashmiri mujahidin that they are involved in the bomb attack in the Indian Embassy in Kabul. The real purpose of this charge is to give a legal cover to the entry of the Indian forces into Afghanistan. However, the Indian Government itself has not blamed Pakistan for this act. This blame will have serious and extraordinarily negative impacts in the future. Everybody knows that Kashmiri mujahidin and Kashmiris are facing Indian oppression in Kashmir. They, in fact, have no legality or capability to commit such an act of terror in Kabul. So far as Pakistan is concerned, the newly elected and public mandated democratic government has not become stable yet. It wants to have peace inside the country and in the neighbouring countries as well.
Air Marshal [retd] Ayaz Ahmad Khan said that ISI has frustrated the designs of foreign forces, agencies, and agents in respect of the security and survival of Pakistan. This institution has rendered an extraordinary service for the defence, survival, and security of Pakistan since its creation. This is the reason that it is a “thorn in the eye” for those who are anti-Pakistan and are working against the security of this country. The ISI has kept a strict watch over all those countries that have made military, political, or espionage plans against Pakistan; and on all the intelligence agencies of the world, be it the CIA or Indian RAW or military intelligence, Afghanistan’s Khad, Israel’s Mossad, or Russian intelligence. Because of this role and performance of the ISI against anti- Pakistan forces or agencies, a well-planned propaganda campaign is launched in the entire world against this agency. The job of ISI is to keep watch on Indian military preparations, movement of the Indian Army in Kashmir, increase in the deployment of the Indian Army in Afghanistan, and on espionage, terrorist, and subversive activities under the cover of Indian consulates.
Through these activities, the Indian Embassy and consulates are providing weapons and funds to other organizations in Pakistani tribal areas. The ISI has kept Pakistan Government well informed about these activities. So far as the suicide attack outside the Indian Embassy in Kabul is concerned, I am sure that the Pakistan Government or the Pakistan Embassy in Kabul, and the ISI were totally unaware of it. If any Pakistani agency was aware that the terrorists were planning an attack on the Indian Embassy in Kabul, these agencies, particularly the ISI and the Pakistani ambassador in Kabul, would have informed their headquarters and the Pakistan Government about this. However, the sorry affair is that Afghan President Hamed Karzai and the Indian Government have launched an immediate and well-orchestrated propaganda campaign against the ISI and Pakistan Army. Only an enemy can blame in such a way. Pakistanis are enraged over the charges and statements by Karzai. The Pakistan Government and people of Pakistan have taken a serious notice of this negative attitude and charges.
Maj-Gen [retd] Jamshaid Ayaz said that RAW has separate anti- Pakistan designs. However, after the attack on the Indian Embassy in Kabul, Afghan President Karzai even left India far behind in blaming Pakistan without conducting any investigation or getting any confirmation. He said that it was the ISI behind the suicide attack. India also blamed the ISI for suicide attack outside Indian Embassy in Kabul without any investigation. Even the Indian national security advisor talked about “teaching a lesson” to Pakistan in a very aggressive manner. It is as though one does something oneself and blames others. There is an Indian hand or an agent of RAW behind every terrorism or subversive act in Pakistan, be it in Baluchistan, Swat, or in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas [FATA].
Maj-Gen [ret] Zahirul Islam Abbasi said that the Indian intelligence strategy against Pakistan has come in the fore. India has not accepted the existence of Pakistan yet. Its way to spread its clout in Central Asia is blocked by Pakistan. India also wants control in Afghanistan. From there, the intelligence operations are being launched in tribal and Baluch areas, and there is a hidden hand of RAW behind many of the blasts and subversive activities in Pakistan.
Col [retd] Ghulam Sarwar Chima said that the United States has itself clarified that the ISI is not involved in the suicide attack outside the Indian Embassy in Afghanistan. However, Karzaiblames us. The Indian Government and its intelligence agency RAW is busy in carrying out the training and subversive activities against Pakistan from Afghanistan for the last five years with the collaboration of the Karzai government. The Pakistani Government, Army, and the ISI consider a peaceful and stable Afghanistan vital for Pakistani interests. Hence, blaming Pakistan can mean only the completion of an unfinished Indian agenda. Speakers Talk on India, Afghan Propaganda Against Pakistan, Intelligence Agency By: iStockAnalyst Wednesday, July 30, 2008 12:55 AM.Originally published by Jang, Rawalpindi in Urdu, 28 Jul 08, pp 3, 6.
Moin,
Actually some of $80 billion think tank industry (as u call it) stated that they are waiting to hear from Pakistan that India did the embassy bombing – and u guys fit it to T. Though the premise you have presented is strong, I doubt, if India would blow off Brig Mehta. Some low level people maybe, but not Brig Mehta.
Tell me two things Moin. I must commend ISI for doing a commendable job of “saving” Pakistan as you call it from seen and unseen enemies.
1. In that case why was it necessary to give nuclear technology to SAUDI ARABIA / IRAN / LIBYA AND NORTH KOREA. Are u guys not Nuclear proliferators – giving designs to the higest bidder (or missiles in case of N Korea). And you deserve a place in this world, therefore, you think and will be loved for who you are.
2. In over 50 plus years of existence, name one thing that Pakistan has done for the welfare of humanity. NAME ONE ….
Cheers
Anjan
Arun:
Thank you for your feedback.
There is no forensic evidence whether Brigadier Mehta actually died in the bomb blast. In fact there has been no independent verification of the death of any of the Indians.
0) India is moving 15000 soldiers to Kabul…we predicted this the same day.
About your comments on nuclear proliferation. There are several articles on this site profoundly discussing the complexities also enunciated very prolifically by the Indian Ambassador to the US and the testimony of Indians in front of select committees of the US Congress.
Essentially the India position has traditionally been;
1) A cabal of Western states should not have a monopoly over nuclear weapons.
2) Every country has a right to nuclear technology and weapons. That is why India broke the regime and gate-crashed the club etc etc etc. You can read the Indian position yourself.
3) Pakistan in one of those unique cases has seconded the Indian position on nukes…saying that it will only sign the NPT if India does.
4) India points out the status of Israel as a part of successful proliferation that started with the US handing over nuclear technology to first Britain, then France and then Israel and Russia handing over nuclear technology to first China and then India.
5) Pakistan has lived through a decade of very deep sanctions but did not sign the Nuclear Proliferation treaty (NPT). As such it is under no legal or moral obligation not to seek or transfer nuclear technology.
6) Your inclusion of Saudi Arabia and Iran in the list is disingenuous. North Korean bomb is based the technology that India uses not Pakistan. Pakistan’s nuclear program is Uranium based. The Korean program is plutonium based. So the accusation is false.
7) Libya funded Pakistan and it was the Bhutto-Qaddafi alliance that developed a plan for Pakistan to get a bomb. Libya was given some rudimentary information which were still packed in boxes when they were turned over to the USA. This could have been a rogue event or part of the underground network which had several countries in it.
8) India and many other countries, like Brazil, Argentina and India were part of the network that included Russians, Belarusian, Ukranians etc.
9) Why is the West after Pakistani Nukes?They call it Self Preservation: They say a clandestine program for survival has been billed as “proliferation”. Some call it Nuclear proliferation. It started after WW2 to Britain, France, and to Russia, and China and then Isreal. Pakistan developed an India specific defense capability. After a decade, no threats to anyone!
http://rupeenews.com/2008/02/03/why-is-west-after-pakistan%e2%80%99s-nukes-by-maftab/
10) To answer your rhetorical flame bait would feed into the bigotry of some. Pakistan gave you Adnan Sami and Mehdi Hasan. However Pakistan has the largest peace keeping mission serving the UN in the world. You may not head of him but Pakistan has produce Abudl Sattar Edhi one of the biggest philanthropists in the world who works day and night. Pakistan has produced Sufi poets that are trusted and worshipped by Hindus and Sikhs…etc etc etc. (pick one)
11) The creation of Pakistan itself was liberation for 160 million, else they would be the Dalits in “India”
12) One of our readers sent us this…it is a bit dated..but you may wnat to glean it for your @one@ thing”
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???? World’s 6th largest Nation – 165.8 Million Population
???? Bigger than France & Germany (803,940 sq. kilometers with Kashmir)
???? 1,046 kilometers – Coastline
???? World’s third largest English Speaking Nation
???? Five provinces (including Kashmir) + 3 territories
Modern, Progressive, and Dynamic State
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???? World’s 5th largest democracy
???? World’s one of the fastest growing economy
???? 6th largest standing armed forces – 0.7 Million strong
???? 300 dailies, 400 weeklies and 700 periodicals (circul. of 10 million)
???? GDP $128.83 Billion. (GDP rate: 7%)
???? 7th largest pool of scientists and engineers in the World.
???? One of the Youngest Workforce (Average Age: 22 Years)
A Nation on the Road to Progress and Advancement
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???? Pakistan – The Legacy of Majestic Mughal Empire
???? Pakistan – The Land of the Oldest Civilization – Indus Valley
???? Pakistan – The Land of the Oldest City of the World – Moenjodaro
???? Pakistan — The Land of the Mightiest Rivers in the World – Indus,
Ravi, Jehlum, Chenab, Satluj, Kabul
???? Pakistan – 20 spoken languages – 66 dialects
???? PAKISTAN – “P” from Punjab, “A” from Afghania, “K” from Kashmir,
“S” from Sindh, “TAN” from Balochistan
???? PAKISTAN – The word means “Land of Pure” OR “Sacred Country”
PAKISTAN – SPLENDID HISTORY
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???? Pakistan – The Roof of the World, Five out of 14 highest peaks are
in Pakistan (K-2, Nanga Parbat, Gesherbrum I & II, Broad Peak,
Disteghil Sar, Rakapushi, Kanjut Sar, Tirich Mir, Masherbrum)
???? Pakistan – Some of the longest glaciers outside polar region are in Pakistan
???? Pakistan – The Largest Salt Deposits – Khewra Mines
???? Pakistan – One of the Largest reserves of Natural Gas
???? One of the largest Bird Sanctuaries in the World – Haleji Lake
???? World-class recognition in Textile, IT, Engineering Services, Automobile Parts
???? Road on the top of the world – Karakoram Highway (16,000 feet)
???? World’s one of the largest reserves of Chromium Ore
PAKISTAN – THE LAND OF BEAUTY AND MAJESTY
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???? Pakistan – The largest explored reserves of Coal at Thar.
???? Pakistan -More than 150 universities starting from one in 1947
Pakistan-Agha Khan University, Karachi has recently been
declared as 2nd best residence medical university of the
world
???? Pakistan – World’s 9th Biggest Produced of Cotton
???? Pakistan – Largest network of water distribution canals in the world.
???? Pakistan – Third Largest Producer of Milk
???? Pakistan – Fifth Largest Producer of Dates
???? Pakistan World Champion in Cricket, Hockey, Squash, Wrestling, Snooker
PAKISTAN – THE HEAVEN ON EARTH
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-Pakistan had one dilapidated jute mill and one non-working textile mill in 1947
???? 6th largest standing armed forces – 0.7 Million strong
???? Established Nuclear Power
???? JF17 Thunder (equivalent to F16) completely built in Pakistan
???? AGOSTA 90b submarines – completely built in Pakistan
???? Al-Khalid Tank, completely built in Pakistan and having high
standards as other modern tanks from the developing countries.
???? Indigenously Developed Nuclear Weapon Carrying Missiles
???? Complete Aircraft Rebuilding Complex in Kamra
???? Indigenous Manufacturing of Pilot less Aircraft, “Uqaab”
PAKISTAN – THE MILITARY MIGHT
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???? 80 Million Cell phone Users
???? Karachi Stock Exchange was the world’s best performing
stock market in 2005 & 2006 with a market capitalization of
over 45 billion dollars.
???? The availability of natural gas in 60% of house-holds via net-work of pipes
???? Largest net-work of man-made irrigation water-canals in the world
???? Global Manpower – almost in every country
???? World’s Biggest Earth-filled Dam – Tarbela Dam
PAKISTAN – THE WORLD LEADER
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Pakistan: Technology Power
???? Five of the world’s major Automobile makers are obtaining components
from Pakistan companies
???? This business fetched Pakistan $0.25 Billion in 2004, and will reach $2
Billion by 2010.
???? New emerging industries areas include, Mechatronics, Bio-Technology,
Clinical Research and Pharmaceuticals.
???? Carrier Air Conditioning Co, the American giant for Air Conditioning
equipment is to set-up Research and Development Center in Pakistan
???? Pakistan revenues from Information Technology Industry will reach $ 5
billion in the year 2010.
???? Many American companies have shown interest in opening software
design Centers in Pakistan.
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Pakistan: Trade
???? Pakistan is one of the world’s largest exporter of textiles and related products such as yarn
and cotton.
???? Garment exports are expected to increase from the current level of $ 1.5 billion to $ 5 billion
by 2010.
???? Pakistan is one of the world’s largest Jewellery and precious gems exporter in the world, its
exports were worth $ 48 Million in 2007.
???? About 4 out of 10 precious stones sold anywhere in the world, pass through Pakistan.
???? Mobile phones are growing by about 1.0Million a month. Long distance rates are down by
two-thirds in five years and by 80% for data transmission
???? Many US and European Giants Chains sources $ 0.5 Billion worth of goods from Pakistan –
Quarter of their apparel. It is expected to increase to $ 2 Billion in the next couple of years.
???? The country’s foreign exchange reserves stand at an all-time high of $16 Billion.
???? Export of Engineering goods – 282 Million at the end of 2007
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Pakistan: Self-Reliance
???? Pakistan is among Seven countries that launch their own satellites .
???? Pakistan’s PAKSAT is among the world’s largest domestic satellite communication
systems.
???? Pakistan is among only few countries that have ADVANCED SPACE PROGRAM.
All of its satellites were indigenously manufactured.
???? Pakistan is one of the countries which intends to put its national Spacecraft in Space.
???? Pakistan is among the few countries in the World that have built its own Nuclear
Power Station by its own indigenous technology.
???? Pakistan is among the few countries in the World that have built its own Training
Aircraft (Mashaq) by its own indigenous technology.
???? It has also prepaid millions owed to the World Bank and Asian Development Bank.
???? Pakistan is providing aid to 7 countries, writing-off their debt including Bosnia (20
Million US$).
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Pakistan: Pharmaceuticals
???? The Pakistani pharmaceutical industry at $ 1.4 billion and growing
at 8% annually, is the 8th largest pharmaceutical industry in the
world, and is expected to be worth $2.0 billion by 2010.
???? Its exports are over $0.75 billion. Pakistan is among the top ten bulk
drug makers and at home, the local industry has edged out the Multi-
National companies.
???? Trade of medicinal plants has crossed $ 500M already.
???? There are 40 biotechnology companies in Pakistan, involved in the
development and manufacture of genomic drugs, whose business is
growing exponentially.
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Pakistan: Foreign Multi-National Companies
Top 5 American employers of Pakistanis:
General Electric: : 2,600 employees
Hewlett-Packard : 1,200 employees
IBM : 2,500 employees
American Express : 1,500 employees
Dell : 2,200 employees
???? It is estimated that there are 80,000 IT professionals in
Pakistan as against 120,000 in Silicon Valley.
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Pakistan: Technology Power
???? Over 50 Foreign Companies have plan to set up R&D facilities in Pakistan
in the past five years. These include GE, Bell Labs, Du Pont, Daimler
Chrysler, Eli Lilly, Intel, Monsanto, Texas Instruments, Caterpillar, Cummins,
GM, Microsoft and IBM.
???? Pakistan’s telecom infrastructure between Karachi, Lahore and New York,
provides one of the largest bandwidth capacity in the world.
???? With more than 50 universities, 15 research institutions and 20 highereducation
institutes, Pakistan produces 20,000 engineering graduates
and another 10,000 technically trained graduates every year.
???? Besides, another 0.1 million other graduates qualify out in Pakistan annually.
???? NED, UET- Lahore, NUST, GIK IST, LUMS, and FAST are among
the top universities from where many of the world’s biggest consulting
firms hire most.
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Pakistani Overseas Work Force – 7.5 Million
???? United States of America 1.5 million
???? United Kingdom and Ireland 2.0 Million
???? Canada 500,000
???? Western Europe 100,000
???? Saudi Arabia 1,200,000
???? United Arab Emirates 300,000
???? Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman, Yemen 200,000
???? Australia, New Zealand 30,000
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Pakistanis in the USA.
???? Of the 1.5M Pakistanis living in the USA, 1/5th of them live in the Silicon Valley.
???? 10% of Silicon Valley start-ups are by Pakistanis.
???? Pakistani students are the fifth largest in number among foreign students in USA.
Statistics that show:
5% of doctors in the USA,
6% of scientists in the USA,
9% of NASA scientists,
10% of Microsoft employees,
6% of IBM employees,
9% of INTEL scientists,
7% of XEROX employees,
… are Pakistanis
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Distinguished Pakistanis
???? First Asian Governor General of British Common Wealth – Mohammad Ali Jinnah
???? Nobel Prize in Physics, 1979 – Dr. Abdus Salam
???? Designer and Architect of Sears Towers – Dr. Fazal ur Rahman
???? Twice Nominated for Nobel Prize in Chemistry – Dr. Saleem uzzaman Siddiqui
???? First Governor of Saudi Monetary Agency (SAMA) – Anwar Ali
???? Author of Constitution of Malaysia – Fazal Qader
???? Chief Advisor to Five Year Economic Plans, South Korea –Maboob ul Haque
???? Founder of Int. Center for Theoretical Physics, Trieste, Italy – Dr. Abdus Salam
???? World’s Top Desalination Expert – Fayyaz Muddassir Mubeen
???? King of Squash, President International Squash Federation – Jehangir Khan
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Distinguished Pakistanis
???? First Commander-in-Chief of Zimbabwe Air Force – Air Chief Marshal Dawood Pota
???? MP in the British Parliament – Lord Nazeer Ahmed
???? Developer of Indigenous Nuclear Technology in Pakistan – Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan
???? Among Top Ten IT Investor (according to Forbes) – Asad Jamal (e-Planet)
???? Pakistani Executive who was awarded British OBE Award – Munawar Hamid (ICI)
???? Pakistani who gunned down 5 enemy aircrafts in single dog flight – Sq. Ldr. M.M. Alam
???? President of U.N Gen Assembly/Judge of Int. Court of Justice – Zafarullah Khan
???? World Squash Champions – Hashim Khan, Roshan Khan, Azam Jehangir Khan,
Mohibullah, Jehangir Khan, Jan Sher Khan, Qamar Zaman
???? Pakistani Admiral in British Navy – Rear Admiral Amjad Hussain (app. 15 April 2006)
???? Pakistani who Conquered Mount Everest –- Nazir Sabir
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Distinguished Pakistanis
???? Founder of BCCI and FAST – Agha Hasan Abdi
???? Winner of King Faisal International Award – Maulana Abul Ala Maudoodi
???? World Leader in Organic Chemistry – Dr. Attaur Rehman
???? Member of 2008 Nobel Peace Prize Panel with Al-Gore – Prof. Adil Najam
???? World’s Top Cricket Legend (499 in 1st Class/334 in Test)- Hanif Mohammad
???? Poet of the East, Philosopher of the Nations – Sir Mohammad Iqbal
???? World’s Top Hockey Legends – Islahuddin, Rashid Jr., Samiullah,
???? World’ Youngest Certified Microsoft Expert – Arfa Karim
???? Princess of Jordan – Princess Sarwat (Wife of Prince Hasan)
???? Pakistani who Conquered K-2 Second Highest Peak –- Aman Ashraf
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Distinguished Pakistanis
???? Author of United Nations Human Charter – Ghullam Ali Allana
???? Nominee for 2009 Nobel Peach Prize – Abdus Sattar Eidhi
???? Architect of Saudi Desalination Program – Arshad Hussain
???? Dean of Engineering/Jeddah University – Prof. Dr. Mohammad Ibrahim
???? World’s Top War Planner & Strategist – General Hameed Gul
???? Ruler of the State of Bhopal – Princess Abida Sultan
???? Designer of the Singapore Seaport – Captain Jalal
???? US Representative in Organization of Islamic Countries (OIC)- Sada Cumber
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“Pakistan is a source of peace and stability in South Asia”
Kofi Annan, Former Secretary General, UNO
“ Pakistan is a great country with honourable people. All people round the world are proud of
Pakistan and its people”
Abdulhamid Al-Mansour, Former Director General SWCC, Saudi Arabia
“Pakistan with its highly trained technical labor force, has the where-with-all
to accomplish these tasks. Whatever is being achieved today is just the
beginning step for a national growth curve that must be goaled if Pakistan is
to be among the world’s technology leaders.”
Dr. Irving Moch, Director, AMTA and IDA
What others say about Pakistan
Cheers
Moin,
You could have put 4 -5 more zeros after 15000. Hehehehe
Munir I should say quite a copy past you have done as for the indian troops in afg it is to keep you pakis quite now you do not have to be a great thinker to understand that and do you know why pak is behind india in every field ?
please let me know
I will be waiting for the responce