Europe: Muslim Integration and separatism lessons learned from the British Raj
We have been hearing about the glorious “Freedom of Speech” in Holland where you can say whatever you want and it cannot be censored. If you hear the Dutch politicians they bring up constitutional guarantees of the Dutch and how “anyone is allowed to say anything”. If we hear the “company line” this Dutch Freedom of Speech is so sacrosanct that it cannot stop Geert Wilders from his Hate Mongering.
Well hear this. Make up your mind after you read this story.
Rupee News wanted to test the “Fredom of Speech” and see if it was real! We wanted to see if the Dutch who can dish it out can take it. We wanted to see if the society as a whole believed in “freedom of Speech”, or if it was a hoax to berate Muslims and Islam.
We wanted to see if the Dutch really believe this “Freedom of Speech” and see if the Dutch could handle criticism of their own society. Some mildly provocative articles were posted on various Dutch site which continued to harp on “Freedom of Speech”.
Our point of view must have created some discussion, because many boards quickly changed their procedures. Rupee News articles were met with abuse, ban and outright censorship. Blacks were accused for being responsible for all crime in Holland. Many compared the Muslims to being sub-human. All denied being German. Some responses said that there are no-go areas in Holland and one person said that 80% of Muslims were criminals
The experiment was absolutely successful in clearly showing the hypocracy of the Dutch.
We posted the articles on Dutch sites like (http://nieuwnieuws.nl/archives/tech/2008/03/fitnathemoviecom_terecht_offli.html).
At first, for a day, our articles were abused with all sorts of names imaginable. More than 2000 people visited our site.
Then all of a sudden all traffic to our site stopped. So we wanted to investigate and logged on to the different boards. we got an answer very quicly. All of Rupee News articles had been taken off the internet. Additionally, strict moderation was imposed. Some boards refused to register this user and/or did not send the registration package that was supposed to be sent instantly.
Amazingly we wanted to send flowers to Geert Wilders. Two Flower shops were contacted. They did not refuse to send the flowers but feigned technical difficulties said thank you and hung up on the Instant Messenger. Additionally, we contacted several Dutch parliamentarians to help us send flowers to Mr. Geert Wilders.
a.slob@tweedekamer.nl
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The Dutch parlimentarians did not respond as of this posting or our overtures for an interfaith dialogue.
The article “Where are the Good Dutch” (http://rupeenews.com/2008/03/22/where-are-the-good-dutch/) and all our articles have been taken off all the Dutch boards. They lasted a day on the site. Now all have been censored off many many Dutch boards.
”Open Letter to the Dutch” all taken off all Dutch sites.
Surprised? All Hail to the Dutch sense of justice, fairplay, democracy and “Freedom of Speech”
So much for Free speech! I guess Free Speech is allowed as long as you pour disgrace on Islam. What hypocrisy!
Where are the Good Dutch? CENSORED!
http://rupeenews.com/2008/03/22/where-are-the-good-dutch/
Where are the Good Dutch?
Muslim response to Geert Wilder provocations: Silence! CENSORED!
http://rupeenews.com/2008/01/24/all-hell-may-break-loose-on-jan-25th-muslim-response-to-wilders-on-quran/
Muslims support Stop Islamization of Europe (SOIE).CENSORED!
http://rupeenews.com/moins-articles/a-moderate-muslims-does-not-mean-a-non-muslim-a-moderate-muslim-does-not-mean-someone-who-is-christian-in-thoughts-on-beliefs-a-moderate-muslim-is-someone-who-respect-chrsitianity-and-christians-and/rebuttal-to-sioe
Muslims should send Tulips and Roses to Geert Wilders: CENSORED!
http://rupeenews.com/2008/03/14/send-tulips-roses-to-anti-quran-film-maker-geert-wilders-global-campaign-to-defy-bigotry-with-flower-power-tulips-have-a-special-place-for-muslims-and-the-dutch
Unnecessary provocation: CENSORED!
The USA is the most shariah compliant country in the world: CENSORED!
Old Nazi Ovens for Jews not good enough. New Energy Efficient ovens created for Muslims. Dutch Bigotry Incorporated and Geert Wilders Inc inaugurates more energy efficient ovens for Muslims
TEN POINT PLAN TO STOP ISLAMIZATION OF EUROPE: CENSORED!
http://rupeenews.com/2008/01/29/geert-wilders-muslims-support-10-point-plan-to-stop-islamaization-of-europe/
“>Duth Bigotry Incorporated and Geert Wilders Inc inaugurates more energy efficient ovens for Muslims</a>.
http://rupeenews.com/2008/01/29/geert-wilders-muslims-support-10-point-plan-to-stop-islamaization-of-europe/
Dutch Islamophobia rooted in Crusades, Anti-Semitism, Inquisition, and colonialism,: CENSORED!
http://rupeenews.com/2008/01/25/dutch-islamphobia-geert-wilders-sioe-rooted-in-crusades-inquisition-colonialisim-of-indonesia-and-neocon-support/
WHY DID MUSLIMS NOT CONDEMN VIOLENCE: CENSORED!
http://rupeenews.com/2007/12/12/the-condemnation-blame-game-is-a-trap-sippenhaft-collective-guilt-is-a-war-crime-muslims-refuse-to-take-foster-parentage-of-the-morass-of-foreign-policy-failures-that-perpetuate-this-cycle/
SOME PARTS OF THE BIBLE THAT REQUIRE EXPLANATION. IS GEERT GOING TO BAN THEM TOO: CENSORED!
http://rupeenews.com/moins-articles/muhammad-in-the-christian-context-concentrating-on-the-commonalities-between-the-abrahamic-faiths-the-arian-influences-on-islam-the-muslim-influences-on-martin-luther-locke-and-jefferson/some-parts-of-bible-that-need-expalnation-and-research/
God Bless Geert Wilders and God Bless all the Dutch
Kindly translate this so that I can post this letter on Dutch sites
<a href=” http://rupeenews.com/2008/01/24/all-hell-may-break-loose-on-jan-25th-muslim-response-to-wilders-on-quran/”> Muslim response to the Dutch and Geert Wilders</a> CENSORED!
<a href=”http://rupeenews.com/moins-articles/a-moderate-muslims-does-not-mean-a-non-muslim-a-moderate-muslim-does-not-mean-someone-who-is-christian-in-thoughts-on-beliefs-a-moderate-muslim-is-someone-who-respect-chrsitianity-and-christians-and/rebuttal-to-sioe/” mce_href=”http://rupeenews.com/moins-articles/a-moderate-muslims-does-not-mean-a-non-muslim-a-moderate-muslim-does-not-mean-someone-who-is-christian-in-thoughts-on-beliefs-a-moderate-muslim-is-someone-who-respect-chrsitianity-and-christians-and/rebuttal-to-sioe/”>Muslims support Stop Islamization of Europe (SOIE)s efforts to eliminate Islamic influences from Europe</a> CENSORED!
<a href=”http://rupeenews.com/2008/03/14/send-tulips-roses-to-anti-quran-film-maker-geert-wilders-global-campaign-to-defy-bigotry-with-flower-power-tulips-have-a-special-place-for-muslims-and-the-dutch/” mce_href=”http://rupeenews.com/2008/03/14/send-tulips-roses-to-anti-quran-film-maker-geert-wilders-global-campaign-to-defy-bigotry-with-flower-power-tulips-have-a-special-place-for-muslims-and-the-dutch/”>Celebrate Tulipomania again. Muslims should send Tulips and Roses to Geert Wilders</a>.CENSORED!
<a href=” http://rupeenews.com/2008/01/24/all-hell-may-break-loose-on-jan-25th-muslim-response-to-wilders-on-quran/”>Unnecessary provocation?</a>.CENSORED!
<a href=”http://rupeenews.com/2008/03/22/where-are-the-good-dutch/“>Where are the Good Dutch?</a>. CENSORED!
The world sees Eurotrash in the parliament of the Netherlands. Where are the Good Dutch?
A decent majority cannot tolerate bigotry. It cannot feign ignorance. If the majority is quiet, it is guilty of intolerance.
OUR OPINOIN: Dutch society is very bigoted and Nazi like. Muslims who live in Holand face a horrible life.
We did meet one good Dutchman who was genuinely concerned about Holland and the Muslims. He called a spade a spade and crticized wrong Dutch policies.
You do realise that all these boards have terms of services which negate freedom of speech? The same would happen anywhere else. Freedom of speech makes it possible to voice your opinion on your own medium. Not on someone else’s.
response to deltablast
There was no terms of violation of any rules. Just a different point of view.
Freedom of Speech was chunked!….content was censored and huge abuse was thrown on the authors.
Hypocracy reign in the Netherlands.
The Freedom of Speech is a fake facade to sell bigotry and hatred and to provoke emotional people around the world
The problem lies in the “emotional people around the world” which is an insane mentally unstable reaction. Crybaby bullies.
What if everyone, each and every human being in the world who was offended at something would react as Muslims do? There would be daily chaos on a global scale 24.7. In every single town, village, suburb and village.
Imagine…
Then there are the civilized who would never do such a thing.
Imagine…
Civilized behavior
By the way you censor at your site. (as others are known to do as well) So why make a huge deal out of your being censored elsewhere? Hypocritical.
Response to Velvethammer:
We do not censor on this site. Your comments were posted in thier entirety.
Who did these emotional people attack…they burned flags, made speeches and went home….
We all must learn from the behaviour of the good white men who are Christians.
Oh! Yeah! What is everyone behaved like Muslims? Hmmm you mean like in 1918 when the Europeans massacred 15 million people or like in 1945 when the Europeans again murdered 50 million people including 6 million patriotic German and Dutch citizens who happened to be Jewish, Gay or Socialist.
Yes the world would be a strang place if we looked at 1 million Iraqis dead and 3 million dispalced.
Yes, the world would be a very strange place if one looks at the 100,000 Kashmir Muslim killed.
No thank you. Muslims do not want to have a Spanish inquistion where millions of Jews and Muslims were killed or converted in Spain.
Maybe we should look at the good Christians of Congo that rpaed five milion women or we shoud look at the Ugandan Christians who are killing thousands of Christians.
Maybe we can learn the lessons from the great efforts in exterminating Australian aborigines, Kiwi natives, Jamaican orignals, or native Americans.
Perhaps Muslims should learn from the Conquistadors that elimianted the native Americans……
And yes you blame the Muslims…look at the atrocities that have rained on Muslims, Crusades, colonialism, and now Islamophibia…but all this is not important.
White mans speaks with forked tongue!
We are not making a huge deal out of anything. We are just proving that “Freedom of Speech” is only for the White Christian man in the Netherlands…..the new untmachen have no rights to say anything.
Freedom of speech in the netherlands is a farce!
As much as I would like to get in a debate with you right now. I am much to busy.
Fitna has been released. So I have news to spread.
I’m sure you will understand.
Till another day.
Cya
Thanks!,
Touche and well-done Mr. MA.
Am saddened to say that your findings don’t seem surprising. Except for a minority, sadly Dutch people seem to be some of the most intolerant folks on earth. They were the chief architects of Apartheid in South Africa after all. Their tolerance is only limited to drugs, pornography and ‘freedom from everything’ for themselves and their own race .
It’s plainly open-season on Muslims everywhere and especially in the Occident since the demise of Communism, even if the ‘inside job’ of 9/11 hadn’t happened.
Islam/Muslims have been the bad guy since the birth of Islam and particularly since the Crusades as we know.
The west and their allies (Indians, Israelis, Russians etc) have to cuss and abuse Muslims to have meaning in their lives’. It’s their raison de’tre for everything. It makes them feel warm and fuzzy inside. Forget the fact that they all owe Islam a great debt for its contribution to the civilisation of the world.
Even if Muslims stopped breathing, they’d have to flog that dead horse to distract their inattentive populations, hence the periodic ‘war in sight’ crises that pop up.
And of course, when there’s a World Recession on, what else to further feed the ‘War on Terror’ (i.e. Islam) industry? Hence the hate and smear campaigns against Pakistan for example.
Does ANYONE in their right mind think that in 2001 western economists, planners and experts DIDN’T KNOW that a severe, long-lasting recession and the spectre of scarce oil, water and other resources were round the corner? IMPOSSIBLE! If they’re making predictions now about the state of the US and other Occidental economies for 2025, they certainly knew about the impending current global politico-economic malaise.
This is why they manufactured this phony ‘war on terror’ i.e. on Islam and Muslims and this is why they carried out 9/11 (7/7, Madrid, Mumbai). All and sundry know that virtually all the major global water-ways (Gulf of Aden/Red Sea, Arabian Gulf, Malaccha Straits, Straits of Gibraltar, the Dardanelles / Bosphorous Sea etc) belong to the Muslims and likewise, almost all of the world’s oil is in Muslim lands.
To control this and to enslave Muslims (and arguably also their own people) they have conjured up this ‘Islamic extremist’ bogey man.
It’s now mandatory for every non-Muslim country to have its ’9/11′ event in order to get street-cred on the international scene.
This is why fourth-rate countries like India are engineering their own ‘atrocities’ in cahoots with Israel and America to put the squeeze on Muslim states like Pakistan.
In light of all this, it’s not surprising that the Dutch, the Danes, the French, the Americans, the Israelis, the Indians, the Russians and all their supporters only reserve ‘freedom of speech’ for themselves. It’s freedom to draw cartoons of the Prophet (saw) of Islam whom they’ve never seen, to write sordid books on his wives whom they’ve never met, it’s to malign the character of a noble and exemplary human being that they have never known. It’s all part and parcel of their vicious invective and indeed of their war on Islam.
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