39 Responses to “Pakistan's JF-17 Thunder Fighter plane: US sanctions and external existential threats forced Pakistan to go Nuclear, build missiles and develop its own indigenous Fighter jet”

1. shan says:

   October 17, 2008 at 3:49 pm

   jf-17 thunder is a nice plane but need to get improved it can be similar like f-35 in future jf-17 thunder will become Pakistani F-35 thats for sure.

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2. Hassan Rahim says:

   November 25, 2008 at 2:17 am

   great plan. All pakistanis are proud of Pak-China friendship.

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   • smith says:

     November 1, 2011 at 8:21 am

     but it can’t save from india.

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     • Alansaralhaq says:

       February 1, 2012 at 4:42 pm

       Pakistan has saved itself from India without conventional weapons. One needs to read about PAF air supremacy in 1965 at a 1:5 against a large modern equipped enemy aurforce.

       PAF is a renowned air force and even today in the United States hopeful airforce pilots USAF are taught about Pakistans 1965 supremacy in the air – FACT!.

       You yourself are a coward unable to identify with your long, unpronounceable real Indian Hindu name and choose a western name. This is typical of Indian and your inferiority complex, you people are all messed up. You also presume Pakistanis fear a war with India – no, never we welcome such a war and we will once again show you where ever we live across the world just how patriotic we are and we will defend Pakistan and show Indians that 63 years later you can still not defeat the sons of Ghauri, Ghazni, Nadir and Zaman Shah and that a Mohammad Bin Qasim lives within all of us, just, courageous and victorious.

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3. Human says:

   December 18, 2008 at 10:08 am

   I am damm sure pakistan doesn’t have capabilty to make even bicycle chain, forget about jet. its ridiculous to see the whole country in heavy debt, people are dying of hunger no education but they only care about there military warhead .

   God save Pakistan.. ” ghaas khayenge lakin bomb banayenge” Pakistani national anthem .

   but for all pakistani people. wo time door nahi jap Ghaas bhi naseeb nahi honge “‘

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   • Alansaralhaq says:

     February 1, 2012 at 4:49 pm

     We have a long history and history teaches we have survived each time and been victorious.

     Voh wakht hum intezaar kar rahein hain jab aap apni bewaqoofi mein phir say humay aankh milah kay aankh dekhon gaye. Islam to rahaya gha we will be absorbed in the next Islamic wave from West and Central Asia ready to take the gauntlet of history maghar Hindu aur aapki soch aur hawaab ka kiya hoh gha. There will never be another Hindu collective like India given to you on a platter by your loyal British masters.

     Aap kar loh bewakoofi aur dekhein the sons of nadir shah, zaman shah, abdali, ghauri, ghazni kaisay aap par phir baarash ban kay tapkay ghein. Bring on the rain and let us wash your napaak filthy minds with your bodies. Yes we stand by M.A.D but India will feel the full force of plutonium based agile eaasily mobilised Pakistani nukes.

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4. Andaleeb says:

   December 18, 2008 at 4:29 pm

   Indian egotism and hubris is breath-taking.

   When they’re not hijacking their own planes, bombing their own parliament, destroying their own trains, massacring their own people, masterminding ‘atrocities’ in Mumbai, carrying out holocausts on Christians and Muslims, they’re swaggering around with delusions of grandeur, blaming their black deeds on Pakistan and ‘Muslim terrorists’ and barbing Pakistanis on what they can and can’t do.

   Heavy in debt Pakistan may be but so are many other developing (and developed states like Hungary and Iceland) especially with a global down-turn.

   As for citizens of dying of hunger, I’m afraid that’s India’s forte, which thinks itself an international politico-economic ‘stud’, spending millions of dollars launching spy satellites and trying to compete with Chinese astronauts, whilst most of its population is lying half-dead in the gutters of Calcutta, Bombay and elsewhere.

   Pakistan (and all nations in Southern Asia) have to spend on defence and ‘war-heads’ because they’ve unfortunately got India as a neighbour: an expansionist, reactionary, Hindu-fundamentalist, militarist, dangerous country that has had wars with most of its neighbours.

   This cannibalistic entity wants to gobble up independent neighbours from different civilisations to secure ‘lebensraum’ (living space – Nazi-style) for its perpetually increasing Hindu population. Instead of using family planning, they want to steal others’ territories and simultaneously achieve their wet dream of ‘Akhand Bharat’.

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5. JM says:

   December 22, 2008 at 4:40 pm

   Ha ha ha….This is what is called living in a fool’s paradise!
   Quality of Chinese products is well known-Cheap, adulterated and bad quality….Suits Pakistan that its air force will be flying the pieces of junk that were also reverse engineered with stolen technologies!
   All the best.

   See below for a humorous depiction of your ‘nuklear’ success. Pray to god your weapons work as only he can know!
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wciSG_3-x28&feature=related

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   • Alansaralhaq says:

     February 1, 2012 at 4:51 pm

     whats with the Ha ha ha.
     Chinese products are found everywhere unlike Indian made products.

     Pakistani nukes work, youtube how inferior Indian missile systems, delivery systems are compared to Pakistans and also youtube at the potential low yield of Indian Nukes.

     I guess no better way than to show afterall showing is believing but are you gunga dins capable of launching an offensive against Pakistan to give us that opportunity.

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6. AA says:

   December 23, 2008 at 7:31 am

   Eating grass is better then eating rats.
   Its JF 17 not LCA. I wonder how come you people talk about your space programme if you cant develop a single engine for your LCA.

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7. Andaleeb says:

   December 23, 2008 at 5:40 pm

   Yeah AA, I saw this really sad programme on Channel 4 where they had these poor ‘lower caste’ Hindus (dunno if Dalits or a bit ‘higher’) living on the very margins of some village.

   They were destitute and hungry with nothing to eat but field mice which they skillfully hunted, roasted and ate to survive. As a result the rest of their Indian brethren instead of offering sympathy and help, gave them the insulting epithet of ‘rat people.’

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8. mohammad mufti says:

   December 24, 2008 at 12:50 pm

   Should see this web-page

   https://forums.yaleglobal.yale.edu/thread.jspa?threadID=951&tstart=60

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9. RANA AMIR SHAFIQUE says:

   December 24, 2008 at 4:37 pm

   well done pakistan east or west pakistan is the best

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10. amritrao says:

    January 24, 2009 at 8:36 am

    i beleive pakistan made the al khalid tanks but i dont beleive pakistan has made jf thunder planes,i think China transferred the techonolgy to pakistan .Pakistan has long way to go to make these superrsonic jets,its not easy and if a country can make a jet they can easily make a cryogenic rocket engine pakistan still hasnt got satellte launching capacity.
    Pakistan still can not make there own helicopter which India can.

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    • Moin Ansari says:

      January 24, 2009 at 12:49 pm

      The JF-17 Thunder was a joint project. Please see the article above. The Chinese had some knowhow but they did not have any access to Western technology. Pakistan designed the plane from scratch, put up half the money for the development and proposed a plane with specific features that were needed by the PAF. Of course the plane is in serial production in Pakistan with an order of more than 250 planes.

      The Bharati Tejas has been in design for the past 20 years and is a total failure.

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    • Moin Ansari says:

      January 24, 2009 at 1:21 pm

      Amritrao: Either you do not read your own posts or are unable to read the responses.

      http://rupeenews.com/2008/10/24/india-as-a-space-power/

      U.S. Missile Nonproliferation Policy and India’s Path to an ICBM Capability Richard Speier

      The path to India’s ICBM capability has spanned more than four decades and is largely based on space-launch vehicle technology obtained from foreign sources.

      We have already responded to the Bullock Cart Space program and how everything is Russian or based on the US scout program

      http://rupeenews.com/2008/10/26/indias-bulluck-cart-space-program-made-in-usa-russia/

      1963-1964: A. P. J. Abdul Kalam, an Indian engineer, works at Wallops Island, where the Scout space-launch vehicle (an adaptation of Minuteman ICBM solid-fuel rocket technology) is flown.[3]

      1965: Following Kalam’s return to India, the Indian Atomic Energy Commission requests U.S. assistance with the Scout, and NASA provides unclassified reports.[4]

      How could a country that cannot feed, or clothe its population build space vehicles. How can a country whose entire missile program was scrapped by the military send rockets into space? How can a country which takes 10 years to design a plane creates a dud explore the moon? How can a country where 75% of the population lives below Sub-Saharan poverty find the money to spend on satellite technology (India: More than 75% live below Sub Saharan poverty line ). How can the hungriest country in Asia compete with the Chinese and the Japanese?

      THE COUNTRIES WITH THE WORST RECORD ON HUNGER. THE HIGHER THE NUMBER THE WORSE IT IS. INDI RANKS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HEAP. On this chart Cambodia is the best and Congo the worst. India is worse than Burkino Faso and slightly better than Zimbabwe, and Haiti.
      # World power India? Part 2
      # India as a World Power: Part 3
      64 Cambodia 32.4 23.2
      65 Burkina Faso 25.1 23.5
      66 India 32.5 23.7
      67 Zimbabwe 20.2 23.8
      68 Tanzania 26.1 24.2
      69 Haiti 35.9 24.3

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11. amritrao says:

    January 24, 2009 at 8:38 am

    i am not trying to undermine pakistan or its military supremacy,pakistan is militarily a strong country,but the building of JF 17 ,is totally done by Chinese techno.. and not independently by Pakistan.

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12. amrit says:

    January 24, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    I agree with you that india is a poor country ,and wahtever statistics you have given about poverty but poverty is not a shame ,poverty can be prevented but not eradicated .
    Bullock cart programme is not the right word,
    no country in the world will share their space programme,even china will not do the same thing with pakistan,they will help pakistan in launching satellites ,but not transfer the space tech to pakistan ,
    russia initially helped in launching satellites,but after that it was left to india to make its own things,russia never helped any further,many satellites failed,but gradually with hard work,india became succesful.
    Pakistan lagged behind and this is not a lie as a result they lost their slots in the space.
    With regards to america they never ther space programme with any one of the world.
    So everything was indeginously built in India.

    Pakistan will built its own satellite later,but everything is slowed down now ,because has’nt got the money.

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    • Moin Ansari says:

      January 24, 2009 at 2:45 pm

      Poverty cannot be eradicated by if the priorities are incorrect it will never be reduced. It is incredilous that while 75% of Bharatis live below Sub Saharan penury levels, Bharat is spending $2.5 billion on Air Carft carriers. It is all the more astounding that while 450 million Bharatis are enslaved and untouchable living in bondage, Bharat spends Billions on Aircraft purchases.

      Which ethical turpitude, and which sense of right or wrong is directing the moral compass of Delhi?

      You said it correctly, whatever Bharat dos, Pakistan will find a way to thwart that.

      Here is the report on Bharat is still using Russian launchers…

      Project director of Chandrayaan-1 Mayilsami Annadurai said the Centre has approved a Rs 425 crore budget for the Chandrayaan-2 venture, with seed money of Rs 50 crore already in place. by Staff Writers, Bangalore, India (PTI) Nov 04, 2008

      With Chandrayaan-1 well on its way to moon without any glitch, Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) has now initiated a dialogue with its Russian counterpart of work-sharing of Chandrayaan-2 which features a lander and a rover.

      “Conceptual studies are in place. Overall configuration is finalised but the scientific experiments are yet to be finalised. It may take six months (for finalisation)”, Isro chairman G Madhavan Nair said.
      
      “The lander will be from Russia. The Russian space agency is cooperating with us. The rover will be a joint development between Russia and India. Many of the scientific instruments (payloads on board Chandrayaan-2) will be from India”, Nair, also secretary in the department of space, said.

      Unlike the Chandrayaan-1 which will orbit the moon at an altitude of 100 km mapping topography and the mineralogical content of the lunar soil, the Chandrayaan-2 mission involves a lunar orbiting spacecraft and a lander and a rover on the moon’s surface.

      Project director of Chandrayaan-1 Mayilsami Annadurai said the Centre has approved a Rs 425 crore budget for the Chandrayaan-2 venture, with seed money of Rs 50 crore already in place.

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13. amrit says:

    January 26, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    No this is not my opinion ,open the cia fact book and open the economy page of pakistan and these are the exact sentences.

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    • Moin Ansari says:

      January 26, 2009 at 8:42 pm

      Amrit: I looked up the site. There is no such quote. You either have an old version, or you made it up. Please provide a URL.

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14. amrit says:

    January 27, 2009 at 7:14 am

    Moin,

    Open the cia afct book through google,then country-Pakistan, then go down to economy page.

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    • Moin Ansari says:

      January 27, 2009 at 1:20 pm

      Because you have been unable to provide a URL link we cannot accpt your word on ANYTHING.

      The statistics you provoided do not exist on the CIA page. You keep posting repeats of your flamebiats.

      Right now your creadability is below zero in front of thousands of readers

      As the American saying goes..”put up or *** up”

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15. amrit says:

    January 27, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/pk.html#Econ

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    • Moin Ansari says:

      January 27, 2009 at 1:54 pm

      Amrit Sir:

      This link does not have the fradulent numbers that you posted earlier!

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16. amrit says:

    January 27, 2009 at 1:28 pm

    i have provided all the readers with the cia link ,moin u read it and give your comments on what cia says, accept it or not is your business,

    I know your madrassa /mosque education will urge you to deny CIA FACTS,

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17. amrit says:

    January 27, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    i am sorry to see innocent palestinian dying.
    But Israel is using India’s Dhruv helicopter.

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18. nandakumar says:

    January 27, 2009 at 1:59 pm

    >It is incredilous that while 75% of Bharatis live below >Sub Saharan penury levels,

    the normal western way of claiming that a labourer in india earns 2 dollars a day and so is very poor is a misrepresentation of reality. 2 dollars a day is 100 rupees in india which can fully feed a family for 2-3 days.

    >It is all the more astounding that while 450 million >Bharatis are enslaved and untouchable living in >bondage,

    are you in bharat? have you personally gone and verified that 450 million people live in bondage? stop using propoganda to justify your flawed arguments.

    sure there are a lot of poor people in the country – this includes people from all sections of the society – including brahmins. but all these people are increasingly finding ways to join the mainstream economic success.

    >You said it correctly, whatever Bharat dos, Pakistan >will find a way to thwart that.

    why? don’t you have your own goals without doing anything/everything with reference to india?

    when are you going to find your own identity?

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19. man says:

    September 4, 2009 at 1:10 am

    good shooting practice for su-30s

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20. kumargold09 says:

    January 1, 2010 at 1:18 pm

    Going through all the articles I found all faults ( some true & most of them uncorrect ) about India is brought in elaborate manner . By praising Pakistan and China some time true and most the time false . I dont know what ansri want to convey their readers. Dont underestimate your adversary otherwise you will cought unaware.
    True allegation Indian should address to improve upon failurs are there. we dont hide like China and pakistan .Half of statistics of China is cooked up but they have made acheive ment wich Indian truthfully acknoledge not shy away like Pkistani .
    good luck to you [****]– searching faults of India will never benefit to you and Pakistan .

    Pakistan will prosperous only when get rid of People like [****] who are bent upon to prove something wrong which is in fact not . Exceptional articles are dig out to blame India and are manupulated to serve their ends
    Hope new year brings you enlightenment and you work in friutful way
    Kumar

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    • Moin Ansari says:

      January 1, 2010 at 1:54 pm

      Intellectually bankrupt people resort to personal attacks? Mr. “Kumar”, how many times will you post this rhetorical diatribe against me.

      Every article has a source and a reference–some of them from Bharati sources.

      In your “galee galoch” no facts were contested—the content was not disputed–only generalizations and personal attacks which do not add any value. This is the reason, we stopped all comments for weeks.

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21. J.lat says:

    March 17, 2010 at 12:59 pm

    I am writing on behalf of myself and a few of my friends to state that clumsy sybarites do nothing but eat, smell bad, and reproduce while contributing little or nothing productive to society in return for their upkeep. First off, Bharat is trying to revive an arcadian past that never existed. Their mission? To introduce a zeitgeist of solecism to our society. I would like to close by saying that behind Bharat’s mask of benevolence stands a complete plan for world government, world power, world conquest, and the promotion of selfish demagogism.

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22. abdul qadir says:

    May 21, 2010 at 9:57 am

    i love pakistan. i want to die for pakistan.

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23. Ali says:

    February 1, 2012 at 7:15 am

    Land of Great People….Pakistan

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24. Moin Ansari says:

    January 25, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    Your pasting without references are useless and cannot be backed up. These could be your opinion, but your opinions are only worth the paper they are written upon

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25. Moin Ansari says:

    January 27, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    You Sir made the claim that it was on the CIA factbook site. That was a false statement.

    We are already aware of the Wiki nonsense (manned by Bharati computer coolies). We have repeatrdly requested them to remove it. Your Wiki quote is bogus. It quotes an unknown NGO. If this is the authencity of your information, please learn to research material.

    We wish you the best of luck

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