Decoding Pakistani Venus Jalebee answers and USA Mars pretzel questions

JalebiOn 16th of October, the Turkish Prime Minster went to the Turkish nation and asked them “when we needed them, the Pakistani Muslims were there for the Ottoman “khilafat”, today your brothers and sisters need you in their hour or need”. From across the great nation of Turkey, school girls, and old men, student and professionals gave and gave and gave. Turkey became the largest donor for the Earthquake relief.That threat and his judicial murder has repurcussions today on Pakistan US relationsMars and VenusAmerican flagPretzel

Trying to decipher the thought processes in a pictorial format. What the diplomats are saying publicly, what the Thinktanks are thinking, what the Intelligence Agencies are assessing, and what external factors are influencing the decision making process. How Americans see themselves and see others. How Pakistanis see themselves and see others are factors that influence actions.

This is how we sepaerated in the Subcontinent.Taliban controlled areas in AfghanistanISAF forcesThere is a disconnect. How do  Pakistanis from Venus talk to Americans from Mars and make them understand? How do we decode the pretzels questions and the “jalebi” answers?

THE PRETZEL VS. THE JALEBI (Mars and Venus stated positions) 

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American interests are simple, why don’t the Pakistanis get it? The US intentions can be described in one sentence listed below (A).

Afghan mapAfghanistan has been a problem for the world for the last 30 years. It is time to end this monstrosity. The solution to the turmoil in Afghanistan is to abolish the Durand Line, unite the Pashtuns, and initially absorb the Pashtun provinces into Pakistan. As a next step the Pakistani boundary should extend to the Amu Darya (Oxus). This will eliminate the need of NATO troops in Afghanistan, and save European and American lives.“Pakistan” existed 5000 years ago. It was not called “Pakistan”. China 5000 years ago was also called something else. Egypt 5000 years ago was called something else.Certainly the American CIA, the Pakistani ISI, the India RAW, the Afghan “KHAD” and the Russian “KGB” do not know.

A) Pretzel-USA-Mars policies: Eliminate terrorism so that American presidents and Congresspersons can keep their jobs.

Pakistani interest are simple, who don’t the Americans get it? The Pakistani interests can be described in the sentence below (aliph).

Harappan sealsThe 5000 year old ancient trade routes between Pakistan and China are being revived with modern freeways that were ocnstructed 20 years ago. 5000 years ago the Harrappan Pakistanis were trading with the ChineseThis map of 1853 “India” does not show half of Pakistan.Obviously the tug of war continues. India’s attempts to destabilize Pakistan will continue.  The solution is to absorb all the Pashtun areas into Pakistan and then combine Afghansitan as Afghania  into PakistanChudhy rehmat Ali forsaw PAKISTAN as follows.Korokaram Highway

Aliph) Build Pakistani infrastructure, have  peace and a stable economy to eliminate existential threats to Pakistan.

At the highest level the objectives (Aliph and A)seem to be congruent. Because these are the stated positions, the diplomats agree 100% on these. However Pakistani from Venus have serious translation issues with Americans from Mars in unstated positions:

THE PRETZEL VS. THE JALEBI (Mars and Venus un-stated positions). The US unstated position is the Plan for a New American Century (PNAC) type of future plans for the USA. This can be described in one sentence (B).

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nishan-e-manzil-2.jpgBaluchistanCertainly the American CIA, the Pakistani ISI, the India RAW, the Afghan “KHAD” and the Russian “KGB” do not know.

B) Pretzel-USA-Mars policies: Create buffers against China and secure the Central Aisan Oil reserves. This is a simple objective of the US–to encircle China.

The Pakistani position (Bay) can be described in one sentence.

Certainly the American CIA, the Pakistani ISI, the India RAW, the Afghan “KHAD” and the Russian “KGB” do not know.Certainly the American CIA, the Pakistani ISI, the India RAW, the Afghan “KHAD” and the Russian “KGB” do not know.Brining peace to the areaBay) Jalebi-Pakistan-Venus: Secure a pro-Pakistani government in Kabul, not be used as a buffer against China and build herself up to avoid Indian agression against Pakistan

Pakistani from Venus have serious translation issues with Americans from Mars: There is an inherent clash between the two objectives (Bay and B). That is why the questions and “diktats” are coded and now look like pretzels to Pakistan. Pakistan does not want to be a buffer against China because it sees China as its lifeline. Therefore Pakistanis from Venus give pretzel answers to Americans from Mars. 

THE PRETZEL VS. THE JALEBI (Mars and Venus un-stated positions) American Thinktanks influenced by Indian and Neocon writings.

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etncities-pakistan-afghanistan.jpgBenazir BhuttoTHE CIA connection… BENAZIR BHUTTO’S ASSASSINATION WAS PRE-PLANNED: THE ZIA MODEL WITH A TWIST:The continued CIA involvement in Pakistan. THE GREAT GAME CONTINUES: When the Elephants dance, the grass gets crushed. The continued CIA involvement in Pakistan. Another Pakistani leaders falls to an internation game betwen the USA, and China and Russia, and Paksitanis again pay the price

C)  Pretzel-USA-Mars: Based on what we hear from the Indian and Indian puppets in Afghanistan, there are serious issues and half-truths.

Afghan boundryMerecenaries from the Indian base of Dushambe in Tajiskistan move to the Indian Consultate or the Information Centers in Afghanistan and then inflitrate into PakistanAlastair Lamb, Incomplete Partition (OUP, 1998): The article of Accession is now lost, was never signed and may never have existedAlastair Lamb, Incomplete Partition (OUP, 1998): The article of Accession is now lost, was never signed and may never have existed250 million Dalits in India eek out a living in subhuman conditions

Pay) Jalebi-Pakistan-Venus: Based on our own experiences, and double-talk, we are confused.

THE PRETZEL VS. THE JALEBI (Mars and Venus un-stated positions). Media on both sides are quaralling at this level.

Henry KissingerD) We don’t trust the Pakistanis

Zulfiqar Ali BhuttoTay)  We don’t trust the Americans.

THE PRETZEL VS. THE JALEBI (Mars and Venus un-vocalized thinking)

THE RALPH PETERS PLAN FOR THE GREATER MIDDLE EAST—All Muslim countries balkanizedE) White man’s burden to civilize these tribes. Darn these Muslims. Take out the nukes and create Baluchistan!

Obviously the tug of war continues. India’s attempts to destabilize Pakistan will continue.  The solution is to absorb all the Pashtun areas into Pakistan and then combine Afghansitan as Afghania  into PakistanPakistan supported China when she was recognized only by Albania, and built the bridge to the USA. This fact cannot be forgotten by the Chinese who mention it in every summit and mentioned it in this summit also.Pakistan and ChinaThe Islamic world and ChinaThe greatest migration in history was the exchange of 11.5 million people between India and Pakistan in 1947 accompanied by the massacre of another half a million. The migration of 3.5 million Afghan refugees into Pakistan from 1979 to 1987 was almost as disruptive. The separation of Bangladesh was, until the dismemberment of the Soviet empire in 1991, the only successful secession of the post World War II era. Three wars with India over what is essentially a boundary dispute bloodied with ethnic cleansing in Kashmir, and now continued turbulence and terrorism based in part on drug distribution and in part on the presumption of the development of nuclear weapons capacity.“HANDS OFF PAKISTAN”:Pakistan Day Celebrations are unparalled anywhere in the worldSay) “White man speaks with forked tongue”. Another Crusade.

So how do we get out of this quagmire?How do we straighten the spaghetti after it has been boiled?

So how do we get out of this quagmire?How do we straighten the spaghetti after it has been boiled?Can it be done?So how do we get out of this quagmire?How do we straighten the spaghetti after it has been boiled?

Ahmad Qureshi, an influential Pakistani journalist of international repute discusses US-Pakistan relations.

There is a disconnect. How do  Pakistanis from Venus talk to Americans from Mars and make them understand? How do we decode the pretzels questions and the “jalebi” answers?…Time for some blunt speak from Islamabad. Truth is, ever since our American friends seized Afghanistan in 2001, that country has gradually turned into a staging ground for destabilization in neighboring Pakistan. If Washington is focused on terrorists crossing our mountainous border into Afghanistan, Islamabad is more concerned at how Afghanistan has become a haven for an assortment of underground forces that consider Pakistan the enemy. These forces remain hostage to a Cold War mindset, and draw support from players beyond Afghanistan’s borders.To paraphrase Ambassador Paterson’s words, terrorist attacks on us from the Afghan soil have already become catastrophic for Pak-U.S. relations, fueling doubts about U.S. intentions.”

2 Responses

  1. It is understandable that your kind hate Pakistan’s nuclear program–becuase it made Pakistan impregnable .

    Your comments about “Muhafiz e Pakistan” do not make any sense in English! There is no junk in hell–only souls.

    He is not the only one–30,000 scientist work in the nuclear program.

    Oh yeah! “batt keh rahey ga Hindustaan-Kashmir banaiga ka Pakistan”

  2. Q A Khan – A junk from hell…..

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