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The Indian Matahiri, The promiscuous Indira Gandhi: A tryst with seduction, and inveiglement. What lures the willing males to the black widow?
Who tops the list of amorous licentious women? Puissance has its own allure. Power the ultimate aphrodisiac makes one seductive and desirable. Many have used power to charm and seduce. Was Helen seduced or was she the seductress? Move over Matahari, and the Greek enchantress Venus. Cleopatra, you are nothing. Forget the sirens who tried to tempt Odysseus away from his journey. Who has the best Matahiri skills?
Venus de Milo you have met your match!
Ignore Aphrodite and leave the Roman Godess of Love in the dust.
The Roman techniques of seduction are passe. The Aphrodite is now in ruins but the knowledge lives. We have a new lady who knew more about the aspects of seduction than any of the real Goddesses of Greek, Roman, or Vedic mythology.
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| RUPEE NEWS | December 27th, 2007 | Moin Ansari | معین آنصآرّی | اخبار روپیہ | Updated January 4th, 2008. Rukun Advani|(Rukun Advani is the author of Beethoven Among the Cows and runs Permanent Black, a publishing company in New Delhi.”)
It is now evident the Grand seductress of all was Mrs. Indira Gandhi who as part of her religious Brahman training was adept at the art of the Kama Sutra. Indira used her training to seduce many men. Like father like daugher:..Sex Life of Nehru: Menege De Trios:-Tryst with Homosexuality:-Love triangle Edwina, Nehru and Lord Mountbatten changed history
After all it is in the grand tradition as described in the Mahabharta. Draupathi in the story had 5 husbands. As in Braham temple custom, did the Nehrus get formal training in the art of sex and seduction? Certainly seems like it. Nehru seduced bother Edwina and Lord Mountbatten and his daughter Mrs. Gandhi used sex to her advantage and to move up the corridors of power.
Indira Gandhi was a tough cookie coming from a very high profile family in India. Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto said that Indira Gandhi was not a very good student at Berkley. By all accounts circulating in the media Mrs Indira Gandhi had a list of lovers. There are the known ones:
1) “Remington Randy” her father’s typist:Mathai Merely (M. O. Mathai author of “Reminiscences of the Nehru Age“ and “My Days With Nehru”, 1979)
2) Her Yoga Teacher:Dhirendra Brahmachari
3) The Foreign Minister:Sardar Swaran Singh
4) Dhinesh Singh
5) Mohammad Yunus author of the book, ‘Persons, Passions & Politics’
6) Frank Oberdorf (A German teacher on the staff at Santiniketan) The new biography is indeed a remarkable story of the woman in Indira, controversially focusing on her intimate side—from her first love, a German teacher at Shantiniketan, to her long pre-marital relationship with Feroze Gandhi and then Mathai, Dinesh Singh and Dhirendra Brahmachari.
To mold Indira according to his aspirations, Nehru sent the young Indira to Shantiniketan, the school of the great poet, Tagore. Indira was expelled from the shcool at Shantiniketan by Tagor for her “wrong” habbits. Santiniketan is a small town near Bolpur in the Birbhum district of West Bengal, India, approximately 180 kilometres north of Kolkata. It was made famous by Nobel Laureate Rabindranath Tagore. the town housed Visva-Bharati which became a Central University in 1951. Indira Gandhi was one of its more illustrious students and was known for her after hour activities at the University.
Source: Indira: The Life of Indira Nehru Gandhi By Katherine Frank, Various authors, plus, http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?211174 , http://www.hinduonnet.com/2001/04/29/stories/13290463.htm
Indira Gandhi (1917-1984) was known as a feisty young woman and a uber-hyper leader. Indira Gandhi was the only child of Kamla and Jawaharlal Nehru. The young Indira was found in bed with her German Teacher at Shantineketan–Frank Oberdorf. She always had a big libido, probably inherited from her father who had a line of affairs, the most famous with Un-Lady Edwina Mountbatten. Stanley Wolpert and other have provided proof that Jawaharlal Nehru was gay and he consorted with the gay Viceroy of India Lord Mountbatten. (Nehur’s tyrst with homosexuality. Nehru dated both Ediwina, and Lord Mountbatten.Menage de trois impacted independence). Indira had many lovers when she was young. She was friendly with Mohandas, and may have participated in his infamous and perverted Bharamacharya sexual experiments–where Mohandas Gandhi slept naked with young 12 year old young girls and married women. Sex life of Mohandas Gandhi, his failures and sexual perversion.
“Indira Gandhi had the developed instincts of an animal, she always responded to people with her skin” Singer-writer Sheila Dhar (Mrs. P. N. Dhar), who knew Mrs. Gandi well
Indira finally settled for one Feroze, someone who was docile and would interfere with her desire for other men. Some say she was pregnant when she wanted to marry a young man Feroze. Due to caste issues, she ran into problems. Mohandas adopted Feroze so that he could have the last name Gandhi. This made it appear that she was marrying a person with the last name Gandhi. This is a very strange episode because Indira already had a famous last name “Nehru”. The Gandhi nomenclature had more to do with religion than anything else. Her belligerence with world leaders is well known. She constantly tangled with Henry Kissinger and they were not even on speaking terms. While in power Indira Gandhi liasons were pretty much an open secret to those who had access to the corridors of power in New Delhi.
Wolpert had always possessed the most authentic credentials for being unfailingly second rate. This book suggested that Nehru’s many wild oats were not sown exclusively among womankind: he had also favoured mankind when young. Wolpert’s creative enthusiasm for the multiple exercise of Nehru’s crotch, which had failed to intrigue earlier biographers like S. Gopal and Michael Brecher, caused him to forget that there happens to be a boundary between speculation and fact. His book was temporarily banned in India: “stopped at Customs for inspection”.
Unlike her father, who himself would never have banned Wolpert, Indira Gandhi was no Voltairean liberal. During her lifetime no one would have dared openly accuse her of wanting men in bed. P. N. Haksar and P. N. Dhar, both strikingly handsome Kashmiri pandits who served her with integrity and distinction and have written fine memoirs, analyse her emotions with perception but say nothing about their boss’s private life. In fact the most perceptive observation about Indira Gandhi was once made by the singer-writer Sheila Dhar (Mrs. P. N. Dhar), who knew Mrs. G. well enough to notice that “Indira Gandhi had the developed instincts of an animal, she always responded to people with her skin”. The political animal that was Indira Gandhi has long been known and done to death: there have been biographies by Pupul Jayakar, Zareer Masani and Inder Malhotra. It is high time someone gave us an insight into the human animal and showed us her feet of clay. http://www.hinduonnet.com/2001/04/29/stories/13290463.htm
Frank dwells at some length on the rumours of Indira Gandhi’s affairs with “none other than her father’s squat and moon-faced secretary, M.O. Mathai.” She writes: “Admittedly it was Mathai himself who was the primary source of these rumours. He boasted openly of his liaison with Nehru’s daughter, both at the time and for many years after.”
Frank, however, says there was “definitely a certain attraction” between them, quoting Nehru’s biographer Sarvepalli Gopal to say that “Indira Gandhi encouraged him beyond normal limits.” She also says that ‘She’, which Mathai withdrew, surfaced in the Eighties, five years after Mathai’s death, “when Indira’s estranged daughter-in-law Maneka Gandhi circulated it among a small group of Indira’s enemies”.
Frank writes: “The ‘She’ chapter contains such explicit material that even if Mathai had not suppressed it, it is doubtful whether his publishers would
While Brahmachari was the silent lover, Dinesh Singh had no qualms about playing up rumours of an affair.
have taken the risk and proceeded to publish it. Mathai describes Indira as ‘highly sexed’ and includes among other salacious details the claim that she became pregnant by him and had an abortion.” A disillusioned Mathai had a strong motive to lie but Frank says that people who knew them well, “including B.K. Nehru, who is a reliable source and no enemy of his cousin (Indira), feel that the ‘She’ chapter contains more fact than fiction”.
So open was their relationship that in ‘She’ Mathai claims to have been afraid that Indira’s careless behaviour would alert her father. But “Delhi buzzed with rumours” about their relationship. In Parliament, Feroze Gandhi was teased that Mathai was Nehru’s real son-in-law. “Indira, significantly, did nothing to quell the rumours of the alleged liaison,” writes Frank.
Subsequently, Indira Gandhi wrote to Dorothy Norman, her lifelong confidante, that she had taken to yoga taught “by an exceedingly good-looking yogi”—Dhirendra Brahmachari. She wrote that “it was his looks, especially his magnificent body, which attracted everyone to his system.” Dhirendra was probably no brahmachari: a raid on his ashram in Kashmir after the Emergency yielded, among other things, a vibrator! If she had a lover as prime minister it would have to be him. “Brahmachari was the only man to see Indira alone in her room while giving her yoga instruction, and he was the only male with whom she could have had a relationship during this period.”
To her men Indira was quite a catch—and perhaps that’s why they encouraged rumours about their relationships with her.Congressman Dinesh Singh had this tendency as much as Mathai. “Indira relied on Singh and conferred with him at all hours. Inevitably, there were rumours that he was her lover, rumours which Singh himself encouraged.”Mrs G’s String of Beaus. A new book chronicles Indira Gandhi’s loves and gets rave reviews in the UK , Sanjay Suri in London. http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?211174
Here is a sketch of at least three:
Controversy was the second name of Dhirendra Brahmachari. He was mentioned in the press during his hey days as the Rasputin of India. He was a charishmatic yoga teacher who befriended the Nehru-Gandhi Family. He was also the personal tutor of Indira Gandhi. It was rumored that he had an affair with Indira gandhi, which might be quite possible as he was a handsome healthy man. He had an open access to Indira Gandhi’s house when she was the prime minister of india and many of the sychophants around Indira were quite jealous of Brahmachari’s proximity to Indira Gandhi. Kushwanth Singh has mentioned a lot of incidents of his encounter with dhirendra brahmachari. Kushwanth singh devotes an entire chapter in his book ‘God and Godmen of India’ for Dhirendra Brahmachari:(http://drvasu.wordpress.com/2007/10/22/dhirendra-brahmachari-sukshma-vyayama/)
Mr. Sardar Swaran Singh, Minister of External Affairs of India (from 27 June 1970 to 10 October 1974)
Mathai Merely: There is much information available on Mr. M. O. Mathai who befriended Mr. Nehru and then became one of the most powerful men in his office. Mr. Merely has said some very nasty stuff about Mrs. Indira Gandhi.
(http://books.google.com/books?id=0eolM37FUWYC&pg=PA205&lpg=PA205&dq=Nehru%27s+typist&source=web&ots=KfkLh_u1TS&sig=oB_BiKqIHbZ3ULE2dFPgnfZZxSg&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPA207,M1)
This is what Khuswant Singh says about Indira Gandhi.
There is nothing spectacular about her rule.
She was incapable of tolerating any criticism and she picked up an aversion to some persons because she thought they were challenging her, among them Jayaprakash Narayan, a good, honest man. She couldn’t stand him because he was a challenge to her as the leader of the country, especially as people grew disillusioned with her rule. There were problems, droughts, challenges and Jayaprakash Narayan had emerged as a leader.
During her reign, corruption increased to enormous levels. She was really very tolerant of corruption, which was another negative mark against her. She knew perfectly well that some of her ministers were extremely corrupt, yet she took no steps against them till it suited her.
If she knew someone was corrupt, she tolerated him but if it suited her, she used the same corruption charge to get rid of him. She really had no strong views on corruption, which went sky high during her time.
Also, she felt uncomfortable with educated, sophisticated people. So you have the rise of people like Yashpal Kapoor, R K Dhawan, who was a stenographer who worked in her office, Mohammad Yunus, who just hung around her.
I believe this was because she had no real education.
She went to Shanti Niketan, then she went to Badminton School abroad, then to Oxford. Nowhere did she pass an exam or acquire a degree.
I think that bred a sort of inferiority complex of not being recognised as an educated person. She would pretend to have read a lot of books. She spoke French, which she picked up when she accompanied her ailing mother Kamala to Switzerland, which went in her favour. There were pros and cons but there was this sense of insecurity when it came to highly intelligent people and people with clear records. She felt more comfortable with second-rate people.
How did her insecurities, about which much has been written, affect India?
In her insecurity, she destroyed the institutions of democracy. She packed Parliament with her supporters with loyalty being more important than ability; she superseded judges; she corrupted the civil service. Favouritism became a great sport with her.
She also knew how to use people against each other and was quite a master of that. She would patronise somebody and when she thought he was getting too big, instead of appointing him to a senior post, she would appoint his close associate, knowing this would create a rift between them.
The best example is of V P Singh. It was his elder brother (Santa Bux Singh) who believed he would be made minister but instead she picked V P Singh, the lesser qualified of the two brothers, which only created enmity between the brothers. She would do this with calculated skill and in the bargain cause enmity between brothers, split up families.
In the long run it was not good for the country to play such games as she did. Few journalists interacted with Indira Gandhi the way Khushwant Singh, doyen of Indian journalism, did. As editor of the now defunct The Illustrated Weekly of India and later The Hindustan Times, he was witness to some of the most historic moments in Indira Gandhi’s 16-year-long rule.
Did the young Indira Nehru (maiden name) eagerly and actively participate in Mohandas Gandhi’s “Bharam Acharaya” pedophilia “experiments with truth” where he would sleep naked with young women, including his niece Manu?
..the list is long…read on for salacious details.
In 1964, the year of her father’s death, Indira Gandhi was for the first time elected to Parliament, and she was Minister of Information and Broadcasting in the government of Lal Bahadur Shastri, who died unexpectedly of a heart attack less than two years after assuming office. The numerous contenders for the position of the Prime Ministership, unable to agree among themselves, picked Indira Gandhi as a compromise candidate, and each thought that she would be easily manipulable. But Indira Gandhi showed extraordinary political skills and tenacity and elbowed the Congress dons — Kamaraj, Morarji Desai, and others — out of power. She held the office of the Prime Minister from 1966 to 1977. http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/southasia/History/Independent/Indira.html
There was much to write about during the years that Mrs. Gandhi in power.
“It is an indication of the intellectual condition of the Congress Party that its old horses, who are very hoarse and very old, are in a flutter about the fact that Mrs. G. may actually have had an enjoyable sex life. My instinct is to applaud, but this just will not do. Even in an era accustomed to scurrility, sleaze and Shobha De, the Indian Caesar’s daughter should be seen to be chaste, Hindu and properly womanly. Whereas, if the stories told are true – and in such matters every substantial accumulation of rumours substitutes for proof – Indira Gandhi may even have been a bad case of epitomising the brilliant parodic one-liner against Hindu hypocrisy which says caste no bar lekin sex baar-baar. Mrs. Gandhi had, it seems, nearly as much love for the pleasures of her residential bed as of her prime ministerial chair. The Kissa was as much Kursi Ka as Palang Ka.
Her list of hits is impressively long. A Parsihusband who turned philanderer, a scandal-mongering Malayalioldenough to be her father’s typist (he was once appropriately called a Remington Randy), a yoga teacher who degenerated into a physical instructor, a poodle Foreign Minister who never stepped far from her Home Ministrations – how wonderful to learn that even as she was shackling her country with authoritarianism, she was unshackling her libido at home. What a riproaringly wonderful and motley crew of purdah paramours our Rushdiean Widow seems to have had. Our hearts go out to poor R. K. Dhawan. How awful he must feel to be left out of this litany of lovers. Can we hope for a memoir by him which regales us with proclamations of his non- innocence? Can we hope that Mrs. Shobha De’s publishers have given her an “undisclosed sum” as royalty advance for her next potboiler on a subject which seems so entirely tailor-made to suit her well-polished talons?
Anyone with half an eye can see that Indira Gandhi’s life can be made, beyond the politics and jingoistic nationalism, the very stuff of sex drama, of Babban Khan’s Punjabi farce “Chaddhi Javaani Buddhe Noo” (which translates roughly as “The Old Chap’s Turning Horny”), of the carnivalesque Restoration Comedy tradition of parodying the aristocracy, of the “lewd” literature of subversion which has such strong popular roots in so many of the country’s regional languages.
Though it is now too late, the material within Frank’s biography could even have been made, for instance, into an Italian romantic film starring Gina Lollobrigida as the lovely Indira, Marcello Mastroanni as Feroze, Edward G. Robinson as the seductively ugly M. O. Mathai and Anthony Quinn as the rugged yoga teacher. Surely Sonia Gandhi, liminally poised between India and Italy, could have been persuaded to script such a film? The finances would naturally have been provided by a joint venture set up between the Quattrochi Family and the Sangh Parivar.
The Guests of Honour at the first screening would have been Khushwant Singharmin arm with Maneka Gandhi. What scenario other than the private life of Indira Gandhi could possibly give such an equal measure of delight, for such diverse reasons, to secularists and feminists, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) and the Bahujan Samaj Party (BSP)?
By art alone might such contraries be fused, enmities overcome. As exponents of the comic tradition – from Aristophanes to Shakespeare to Swift to Rushdie to Yes Minister to Spitting Image to R. K. Laxman to Jaspal Bhattito Black Adder – have shown, the literary inflation and consequent deflation of politicians into caricatures via comic art is the only certain method for the ordinary citizen to get even with those who exercise everyday power over us, to make us feel that our ordinariness at least transcends the insanities of their politics. Those who love the exercise of power fear ridicule even more than they fear retirement. Mrs. G. seems to have feared it most of all. In this seems to lie the psychological roots of the Emergency.
If the Congress Party were less stuffed with hypocritical geriatrics it would realise that in this epoch, when Kaliyugahas gone global and formed a multinational joint venture withthebold and the beautiful, withliberalisationand liberalism, the world of vice has, in large sections of urban India, been turned upside down into the world of virtue. If you want to be politically correct, sexuality and hedonism in the woman now betoken female power. The idea of womanly virtue, of the fallen woman, has fortunately no more stability than the Berlin Wall. It may remain generally embedded as a patriarchal ideal, but everyone knows that the winds of gender equality in sexual matters have been blowing hard and chilling the traditional Indian male’s privates into a deep recession.
Yes, there is no doubt about it, Frank has done us a favour by making Indira Gandhi roll out of her Cleopatra rug, by making the skeletons in her bedsheets come tumbling out withher. It is time we took the politics out of Indira’s life and started to democratically look her straight in the face. What if Katherine Frank has got minor dates and details wrong? The next printing will sort those out. Meanwhile, how delightful to know at last that Mrs. G. was only as human as any of us, that the peccadilloes for which JawaharlalNehru was moralistically castigated merely inaugurated a tradition which continued and flourished with his daughter. As we await the future biographies of Rajiv and Sanjay, Sonia and Maneka, Varun and Priyanka, we can only pray that this tradition of a rich and varied sexuality is being actively maintained even now by India’s immortal First Family. Rukun Advani is the author of Beethoven Among the Cows and runs Permanent Black, a publishing company in New Delhi.”
By 1973 the decline had begun. This was just the beginning of the end for Indira Gandi.
1973, Delhi and north India were rocked by demonstrations angry at high inflation, the poor state of the economy, rampant corruption, and the poor standards of living. In June 1975, the High Court of Allahabad found her guilty of using illegal practices during the last election campaign, and ordered her to vacate her seat. There were demands for her resignation.
Mrs. Gandhi’s response was to declare a state of emergency, under which her political foes were imprisoned, constitutional rights abrogated, and the press placed under strict censorship. Meanwhile, the younger of her two sons, Sanjay Gandhi, started to run the country as though it were his personal fiefdom, and earned the fierce hatred of many whom his policies had victimized. He ordered the removal of slum dwellings, and in an attempt to curb India’s growing population, initiated a highly resented program of forced sterilization. In early 1977, confident that she had debilitated her opposition, Mrs. Gandhi called for fresh elections, and found herself trounced by a newly formed coalition of several political parties. Her Congress party lost badly at the polls.
In the second, post-Emergency, period of her Prime Ministership, Indira Gandhi was preoccupied by efforts to resolve the political problems in the state of Punjab. In her attempt to crush the secessionist movement of Sikh militants, led by Jarnail Singh Bindranwale, she ordered an assault upon the holiest Sikh shrine in Amritsar, called the “Golden Temple”. It is here that Bindranwale and his armed supporters had holed up, and it is from the Golden Temple that they waged their campaign of terrorism not merely against the Government, but against moderate Sikhs and Hindus. “Operation Bluestar”, waged in June 1984, led to the death of Bindranwale, and the Golden Temple was stripped clean of Sikh terrorists; however, the Golden Temple was damaged, and Mrs. Gandhi earned the undying hatred of Sikhs who bitterly resented the desacralization of their sacred space. In November of the same year, Mrs. Gandhi was assassinated, at her residence, by two of her own Sikh bodyguards, who claimed to be avenging the insult heaped upon the Sikh nation. (http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/southasia/History/Independent/Indira.html)
WILL THE FILM ON INDIRA SHOW HER AFFAIRS?What else could the main opposition party in center have thought of than to have a full-length feature film on its late leader Mrs. Indira Gandhi? The film has made headlines right from the day it was announced that veteran journalist, television personality and littérateur Kamleshwar is writing a film script on the life of late Congress leader who stayed as prime minister of India for a very long time. The latest news is that Manisha Koirala who shot to fame for her controversial film Ek Chhoti Si Love Story , has been selected to portray Indira Gandhi on the silver screen. This was formally announced in Mumbaiveryrecently. The film titled Indira Gandhi-A Tryst WithDestinywill roll in the beginning of the next year and will be released worldwide by the end of the same year. This happens to be 100th film for its writer Kamleshwar.But it is the second film for producer Nitin Keni who last made Gadar-Ek PremKatha with director Anil Sharma
Rukun Advani singlehandedly built the Oxford University Press academic section for 18 years and made OUP one of the most respected and prestigious publishers in India. Then, suddenly, he was asked to leave. Now he and his wife, Anuradha Roy have started their own publishing house called Permanent Black. With their first book, Amitav Ghosh’s The Glass Palace just out, Advani speaks to Shoma Chaudhury about OUP, academic publishing, Indian writing in English, and his plans for Permanent Black.
Also on this site:
Sex Antics of Monhadas Gandhi:
Sex stories of Mohandas Gandhi, his failures and Sexual perversion/
Nehru’s tyrst with Homosexuality and Bi-Sexuality
Sex in Space: The details
ARTICLES ON MOHAMDAS GANDHI:
- Gandhi condones Zulu massacres and defends the British. Aug 4 1906
- The sex life of Mr. Gandhi, and his failures as a politician
- The myth of Mohandas K. Gandhi debunked. He gets an “F” on South Africa, Salt Match, Non-Violence, and independence
- Which war did Mohandas Gandhi support. All of them. There wasn’t a war that the prophet of Non-Violence did not support. He was Sergeant Major in the British Army and won a medal for his war duties
- Gandhi’s racism. The truth behind the mask. Behold Sergeant Major Gandhi who supported the British during the Boer war, Zulu rebellion. Behold the prophet of peace who worked to stratify the South African society.
- Gandhi did not bring the British Empire down.
- Gandhi’s letter to his friend Hitler.
- Sex life of Mohandas Gandhi, his failures and sexual perversion
OTHER ARTICLES:
- Where in the world is Osama Bin Laden
- The speech that Bilawal Bhutto should have given. The words that Zardari should have shouted. The thoughts that Fahim should have communicated
- The CIA Connection…….The Benzair Bhutto Assissination was preplanned, the Zia model with a twist. The continued CIA involvement in Pakistan. The Great Game continues. When the Elephants dance the grass gets stamped upon…Pakistanis suffer. The purpose of this assignation is to destabilize Pakistan and find a reason to secure the Nukes
- Criticism of Benazir Bhutto’s 5E Campaign program
- Criticism of Benazir Bhutto. Pre-Assassination
- Who killed Liaqat Ali Khan?
- On deconstructing the wrong paradigm of the USA media
- Rebutting Cohen
- Pakistanis are immune to another prophecy of doom
- Pakistanis want to hear “Thank You” from the ingrate Americans. Nothing is good enough!
- Pakistanis to USA: We want “Friends Not Masters”
- Say Thank You
- Pakistan US Relations should be normal not transactional
- Response to Congressman Hoyer on Pakistan”
- On inadequate US Aid to Pakistan
- Where is Osama Bin Laden
- Where are the Pakistani nukes?
- Where is Leadership of the PPP? Why is it behaving like Nero. Stop the arson and the carnage. Ask for a national Day of prayer and reconciliation
- Open Letter to Mr. 10% Asif Zardari. Show some leadership
- Open Letter to Mr. Bilawal Bhutto
- The CIA connection—Benazir Bhutto assassination was pre-planned, the Zia model with a twist
- Benzir Bhuttos revenge from the grave: Annointing a despised and corrupt politician Mr. 10% as her successor
- Open letter to Mr. Zardari
- The 4th Bhutto assassination is a message to the USA. Hands Off Pakistan
- Here we go again! Another Indian prophecy of doom. The first one was in 1947.
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Such a sites can not blamed indira but it can show
ur narrow mind full of faults
This is the worst researched article I have read…It is after all the internet. I am Persian ( Dont wish to be called an Iranian) and have lived for 60 years after my teens. You Pakistanis are denying your Aryan roots even though you are sitting on the best evidence of that civilisation ( in ruins- and negleted – Mohan ja- Daro – etc.) You are from a civilisation that is more than 5;000 years before Islam . Islam is a Semitic Religion that has sprouted from Christianity which had sprouted from Judaism. Judaism and Hinduism are the root religion of the modern world. ( I am a Zoharastrian by the way) From the Judaic law we have Christianity, Islam, Sufiism, Ismailis, Dawoodia,Bahais etc etc …AND the other is Zoharastrian ( Aryan – Indo Aryan Religion) and Hindusm that lead to Buddism,Zen Buddism etc. Islam is an Alian Religion in the South East Asia. It is only 1,500 Years old and it is the religion born out of Desert conditions and life od the desert nomad. Did you know that 90% of Saudis who are more than 70 years old were born in a Tent.Which means that within our life time within this century – almost 90% of the forfathers of Saudis were born in a Tent.- Except the Wahabis ( The tribe that was installed as Rulers by the british & Americans after they defeated the Turks out of the SA. ( read your history- Lawarance of Arabia et al. )….The strange thing is It is Only Christianity and Islam( with all its branches) that go out to the world with a view of converting others to their religion. The Jews and the Hindus and the Zoharastrians dont wish to convert anyone…..You have to be born in to it.There are only two countries who were established on the grounds of Religion in living memory . ( Israel and Pakistan) – and both have serious problems !! Please count how many presidents ( and change in Govt. have there been in Pakistan – by NON- Peaceful means….And if it was not for the strong Jewish Lobby in the uSa and west Generally – Israel could not survive!! …On a broder front looking at all the countries that have been converted to Islam have constant turmoil…Algeria, Morocco, Egypt, Tunisia, Nigeria, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iran,Yemen, saudi Arabia ( nothing without USA Support – just waiting for a coup) Pakistan,Afganistan, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Indonasia . There is no real democracy in the countries mentioned – not like India.which has more muslims than Pakistan , has Jews, Christians,Zoharastrians, Buddists, etc etc etc …The day Pakistan welcomes and allows the freedom of worship ( like india does ) to all religions and creeds than and then only you can call yourself civil society. Even in a very Islamic country of mine ( Iran) we have Sikhs, Armenians, Zoharastrians, Hindus, Assurys, Azaris, etc etc .. they are free to live there and are never threatned.If the Pakistan Govt. does not play its Politics right then you are doomed as a nation. Why? – There are aready Maps of what future Pakistan would look like . Fragmented and broken up.. Balucistan, Sind, Waziristan, etc…The Oil Cartels want Baluchistan to be in their control and after bribing the Afganis they can attain their great ail and objective of getting a pipeline for Oil and Gas from Kazakstan, Turkmanistan, and neighbouring landlocked countries to the north.!!!! BE CAREFUL!!! VERY CAREFUL! Dont be a pawn in the great game of the west.!! The best option for the region is to have a FEDERATION OF STATES – COMPRISING IRAN, AFGANISTAN,PAKISTAN INDIA AND BANGLADESH ( AND SRI- LANKA) – jUST LIKE THE EUROPEAN UNION. — STRENGTH IN UNITY. COMMON FOREIGH POLICY,CURRENCY,DEMOCRACY – UNIVERSAL ADULT SUFFERAGE- AND SAME FEDRAL LAW. ( AS NO ONE CAN BE ABOVE THE LAW- POLITICE OF THE LAST 18 MONTHS IN PKISTAN MUST HAVETAUGHT YOU A BITTER LESSON)… ALL NATIONS DERIVED FROM THE INDO- ARYAN RACE…EXCLUDE ALL ARABICSPEAKING SEMETIC RACE . THIS WILL BE OUR ONLY SALVATION- IT IS NOT BEYOUND RESONABLE ASSUMPTION THAT THE WST AND USA IN PARTICULAR WILL ATTACK IRAN FOR THEIR OWN SELFISH STRATEGIC NEEDS.
GOOD LUCK TO YOU ALL
HAMID – YOUR NEIGHBOUR.
Hamid–Another product of the Bharati temple indoctrination. Pakistan history begins 150,000 years ago on the banks of the Soan where the first Pakistanis roamed–then in the oldest agricultural civilization on the planet in Mehargarh–then in the heart of Pakistan–the IVC–the latest avatar of the IVC is of course Pakistan resurrected as a political entity–what has existed for 7000 years as a political reality
You say you are Iranian and don’t know the basics of Islam spouting Hindu illeteracy about Muslims—Islam is not 1500 years old. Adam. Moses and Abraham were Muslims–Prophet Muhammad simply republished deen e ibraheemi (religion of Abraham).
You mention maps–there are maps for Bharat too and also great ECO maps of Pakistan if you care to look.
Like Mark Twain said–the rumors of my death are a bit permature…mind the balkanization of Bharat..will Shiv Sena ask for the Hindu republic of Maharashtra? How long can Delhi keep Assam and Kashmir? Will lthe Maoists and Naxals over run Delhi one day like they over ran Khatmandu? How quickly can the 450 million Dalits and Untouchabales convert from Hindusism to Christianity or Islam–leaving a rump Hindu capstone which will have to fend for itself against Muslims and Christians who will be in majority.
It is very diffciult fro Bharatis to see themselves in the mirror. Temple indoctrination creates the thinking that you adhere to–which is far removed from reality.
A Hinduized Zorastrian is worse than a Mahasabah Hindusit–he is confused and doesn’t know fire from water. Have you seen Parzania? Do you know about Cowasjee?
We crticise and eulogize all countries. We write about great Indians and bad ones. We do book reviews. We castagate the Saudis, as much as we criticize the Gulf countries. We are unbiased and an equal opportunity site. Some of the most escerbic critcism is against Mr. Zardari and Mr. Sharif–not to forget Mr. Khan.
No thank you–we do not want a union with Bharat–we tried it and it didn’t work.
Pakistan is constructing the biggest wind farm on the planet, and building a rail system from Islamabad to Istanbul for $20 billion. Roads and rails are being built to connect Islamabad to Dushamabe and Ferghana linking up the ECO with a web of physical networks–to suppliment the inner unity.
Whether you welcome or don’t welcome the unity–it is inevitable and going to happen. Once the US leaves Afghanistan in 2011, the ECO will become one of the biggest realities of the world.
Another example of the great temple indoctrination–with no clue about Pakistan but determined to use the keyboard.
Like Mark Twain said–the rumors of my death are a bit permature…mind the balkanization of Bharat..will Shiv Sena ask for the Hindu republic of Maharashtra? How long can Delhi keep Assam and Kashmir? Will lthe Maoists and Naxals over run Delhi one day like they over ran Khatmandu? How quickly can the 450 million Dalits and Untouchabales convert from Hindusism to Christianity or Islam–leaving a rump Hindu capstone which will have to fend for itself against Muslims and Christians who will be in majority.
We have our own economic union to look too. If you had bothered to read about Pakistan you would know that Daimer Bhasha and Neelam dam are under construction. Pakistan is constructing the biggest wind farm on the planet, and building a rail system from Islamabad to Istanbul for $20 billion. Roads and rails are being built to connect Islamabad to Dushamabe and Ferghana linking up the ECO with a web of physical networks–to suppliment the inner unity.
Whether you welcome or don’t welcome the unity–it is inevitable and going to happen. Once the US leaves Afghanistan in 2011, the ECO will become one of the biggest realities of the world.
PS: We do not accpet any free advice from anyone…so you can save it. When we need advice we pay for it and get it from professionals we trust.
Aga Ansari,
Zanoonay English a mann messay tho kheli khoob nist. Zaboon a Farsi maan behtari control doraam. What I am saying is that my english is not as good as yours so please excuse me for not expressing the right sentiments in my comments, I am not critizising Pakistanis- only the people in power there and the power brokers. There are too many power brokers in Pakistan/Iran/Iraq and even India. Hindu muslim conflict, the untouchables, Shia Sunni conflict in Pakistan, Iran, Iraq and syria. unless we the people get together without any conditions and pre- conditions we have no chance…..We will be divided and ruled…The british demonstrated that very well in the last 200 years – worldwide!! In addition there is the vested interest of the provincial governers ( traditional adminstrative authorities) who do not wish to give up their ‘thrones’ and are still playing as king makers and peddling their influences at the expense of the ordinary people. in national and local elections! The distribution of wealth in our countries needs to be looked at. The Zaamindars are Zaamindars whereever they are…There is of course the thorny issue of Corruption at almost every level of Government and adminstration. This is so in Iran/ pakistan/and most of the middle-eastt countries.Also one would be hard pressed to define a democratic elected Governments in our countries. Thankfully Pakistan has rules that allow women to be free and educated and occupy high offices. Fortunatly this is now being eroded in Iran and most of the ME countries ( not north African countries) . It is really unfair to exclude 50% of the population ( women) in giving them any say in the affairs of the country. I have 2 sisters who have given up working as Medical doctors due to the restrictive rules in Iran. A woman doctor is not allowed to treat a male patient and vice versa. What a joke! Fortunatly both of them will be immigrating to France and Germany ( where they studied).
I hope you are right in your analysis of the future of your country and the region in general. As for me I am not very happy about what is in store for Iranian people. They deserve better. Men and women! After all My mother and my sisters are women.
On a final note … Pakistan is a young sovreign country of just 65 years old . That is just a nano second in th etime line of history. If you say that your country ( pakistan had a history of 7,000 years – ( fine) but waht about the million Hindus who lived in what is pakistan now and left for India after partion…Dont they share the history of the region – same as you….or are you just equating Pakistan as a secular muslim state! VIZ: You can only share the history of the Indus valley civilisation if you are a muslim! That sucks.! The real people of Iran are the Zohrastrians ecen though most converted to Islam. We are a minority in our own country and are not given due regards as the original persians of the land.The Zohrastrian population is dwindling ..with the majority of us in india who went there as refugees. I was in India 3 years ago for a Zohrastrian meeting and I found the Indians ( Hingus and muslims) very friendly and supportive with no critizism levelled at my community…. unlike Iran.
Now you know where I come from. Perhaps you can see the issues of Nationality and nation building from my point of view.
Regards.
Hamid.
Your veiled and not to veiled criticism of Pakistan betrays your Bharati biases–you are a product of the Bharati indoctrination. Your version of events is not the history of Pakistan.
The Pakistan Civilization is 7000 years old. It was not Hindu.
The first Paksitani roamed the Soan River 150,000 years ago.
The Pakistani Mehergarh Civilzaiton preceded the Pakistani Indus Valley Civilization.
Pakistan is the magnet of the ECO, building a community of Muslim states West of the Indus. There are several thousand Zorastrians in Pakistan enjoying a good life. Zorastrians are good people who have participated in philinthropy and educaitonal institutions in Pakistan. There has never been any ill feelings between Zorastrain Pakistanis and other Pakistanis.
If you want to discuss Pakistan, yo uhave to dump your Delhi biases.
I dont know which history book you have read but the info and the coments yo make are very wrong……The language of the Area up to 3000 years ago was Sanskrit….NOT URDU OR Punjabi or Hindi or Persian or for that matter English. You must have read the history of the area in Sanskrit to be able to speak about it with such conviction! The Oldest written texts in the world is is Sanskrit which is a root language for Persian, Arabic, Sindhi, Hindi, Gujarati, Baluchi English, Romany, etc etc etc ….All the ancient writings of Iran ( Nail or Mickh writing – is derived from Sanskrit– Perhaps you should visit Iran – Hamadan specially to see the writing on the granite slab by the Achiminian kings…which is the earliest declaration of HUman rights. …..All the religious books of the Hindus are in sanskrit going back 5,000 years and not in Urdu or Arabic. The Arab invasion of Iran completly destroyed all the buildings and literature of Iran ( mostly Zohariatrian) I am Glad that you finally accept that Adam, Abraham, and Moses are ‘Muslim’ – which means you and the Jews are first cousins! because the jews adoped and wrote about them before Islam was thought of. —-Your views is not only Miopic but riddled with innuandos and reveals your maturity when you refer to Zorastrians as ” Zorastrians Pakistanis” and not just Zorastrians! By that I suppose you would call a Jew born in Pakistan ( I an sure there were few of them) as jewish Pakistani! …I dont know what position you hold in this web set : whatever it is you are doing them any Credit or good.! ………..I have visited pakistan several times ( During the Shah’s time and even Khomeni – albit all as a member of the iranian Govt. team dealing with energy resources..I have yet to meet someone like you ! So bnlinkered and devoid of understanding og ancient History.
I hope you enjoy your life because you are living a life of a Zealot,conflict,internal strife, Hatred of others – Life has to be better than that! .. To quote Khalil Gibran ” Ther was once a man who was angry and upset because he did not have a pair of shoes – till he ventured outside and saw a man with no legs.” There are countries and people elsewhere in this world who are far worse off than people in pakistan, Iran. India, the middleeast, Iran etc….Rewanda, and sub- sahara africa comes to mind…( somalia, Sudan, Mali, ethopia etc etc etc ..
Enjoy your life!
Your inane assertion that Sanskrit is the oldest language of the world–is assanine–the oldest language was not Sankrit at all. Pardon me but your narrative is devoid of any references, where we have submitted tons of references on our IVC article. The Phonecians did not speak Sanskrit, nor did the Chinese, or the Egyptians or the Mesepotaminns or the IVC people.
Sanskrit came later–mush much later.
Your verision of history is the Hindu version of event which have been debunked my millions of around the world and by 170 million Pakistanis. Your temple indoctrination tells you that Sanskrit existed 5000 years ago—whereas the only civilization that existed in South Asia 5000 years ago was the Paksitani Civilization (aka Indus Valley). The Indus people did not write or speak Sanskrit. Their language was pictogrpahic written right to left. The IVC people ate beef, did not worship the Hindu pantheon (Ram, Sita, Arjun, ganesh etc). The Indus Pakistanis had nothing to do with the Ganghes Civilization.
If you had read the article you would have seen doznes of references to archeologists.
Of course there are Zorastrian Pakistanis who thrive in Pakistan. Their religion is Zorastrianism, and their nationality is Paksitan. Not sure what your point was on that
Your base of knowledge is very dated–and there is an overwhelming body of evidence against the theories of Max Mueller. Sankrit was an import into South Asia–and it has no link to Arabic under any linguistic theory of the world.
If the revelation that Moses and Abraham was an ephiphany to you, then you know nothing about Islam. Bakar Eid is the celebration of Abraham’s convenant with God–and the Quran clearly says that Abraham was a Muslim as was Moses and David and Adam.
You chose to leave these comments under the wrong article–this article deals with Mrs Gandhi, not the IVC.
Your personal comments have been ignored as they just who the shalloness of the person who wrote them
We are enjoying life–you chose to interrupt it with insults. You visited our site…we did not force you to come and read the facts. If you had wanted to stick to your own paradigm, you should have continued to visit Siffy News–you should stay there—it is within your comfort zone.
I am not a Christian. I am not a Hindu nor am I a Buddhist. A matter that has always bother red me is what makes Muslims think they are free to criticize any other religion or their leaders with total freedom. What also makes them think they should take personal offence when someone criticizes their prophet? If he is a real prophet why does he need some human being to defend his name? Why cant he use supernatural powers to deal with people who criticize him? I read a site where people calling themselves Muslims use despicable and vulgar language. They threaten to kill and maim anyone who criticizes Islam, yet they go ahead and criticize other people’s religions. What utter rubbish is all this? If you criticize someone else or their belief and you expect them not to react, they why are you reacting the way you do when what you believe is criticized?
I don’t want a million quotes thrown at me; I can also read, write and understand.
Also many people know how to fight. Many people know how to kill; many people are willing to die to defend themselves. I want us all to be reasonable and stop trying to be clever.Its definitely not helpful
If all this information then Indira is a sexual pervert. If its true that Nehru was a gay or bi sexual then I am not surprised that India had so many problems and that people like him associated with othersexual perverts and people that called Hitler their friends. What gives these sexual perverts the right to claoim dominance in Indian politics? I think without such creatures India will be e better place and mor eordinary people will be able to move out of this grinding poverty. All the Gandhi’s are wealthy beyond measure. Who knows exactly how much MK Gandhi accumulated in wealth and where did he hide it? Is it hidden in Pakistan?There is no doubt in my mind that people must be told the truth and researchers must find out whether or not Gandhi hid wealth in the UK, Switzerland or pakistan.
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the article is truth about Indira Gandhi,nothing to get annoyed.
She was corrupt
Hatred is your word.
Nehru had one daughter – Indira Gandhi. World knows what she is. She was born a Hindu, Married a Parsi, her one daughter in law is a Hindu other one a Christian. Family is cosmopolitan.
Indira Gandhi was man enough to break Pakistan, that is history. And every Pakistani is smarting under the surrender of their 98,000 troops.
Mohd. Ali Jinnah had only one daughter – what happened to her. Bombay Dyeing is their flagship enterprise. Never visited her fathers illegitimate (sic) creation. Research and write an article on that.
The article on Ms. Gandhi was written by an Indian and a Hindu.
Since we are trading insults, let me do the usual ritual…
Mahmud of Ghazni didn’t have a daughter. He destroyed Somanath and set the path for the 3 battles of Panipat and ten centuries of Islam in Bharat.
Looking down any graduate from “computer coolie college” can type anything.
Go out and look up–in Delhi, Hydrabad, Kolkota, Lucknow or any city–you will see minarets and symbols of the 1000 year Muslim rule–one from which you can never escape. On 14th August the scion of an illigitimate RAW was killed on 15th August 1975 and the patriots buried the Rakhi Bhani and Bharti dreams deep into the Bay of Bengal. One lost battle does not make a war! According your current PM, Bangladesh today is the biggest threat to Bharat–in West Bengal, Assam, Orissa, Bihar. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and in Bharat! The inevitable awaits your fate!
Mohandas Gandhi had a son who converted to Islam and repudiated the religion of his father and his farcical drama.
The reality of Bharat a failed state cannot be hidden by the pelvic gyrations of Pornywood–a dysfunctional conglomeration of 360 states where 450 million live in slavery, 150 million Muslims die in abject poverty and 75% Bhartis live in penury worse than Sub Saharan Africa—According to a hunger indiex, Bharat the Superpower ranks slightly below Burkino Faso. The Blue water navy was unable to stop two dingies painted orange!
Hatred is not my word.
I just report the facts. You are the one who hates!
Gosh I dunno how that Indira Gandhi managed; she wasn’t exactly a looker and nor was her father. I guess it must’ve been ‘power’ itself then.
I always wondered why her husband had a Muslim name. What hypocrisy if it was true that he was a Muslim. Where does that leave her as a ‘virtuous Brahman woman’ [cough, splutter]?
mr. ansari,
after i read your write ups and replies given by you to the protestors and supporters of this article , I appreciate a good human being in you.
majority of people from both countries do not realise it that pakistan was created intentionally to sideline the anti british sentiments after the freedom from their rule for over 200 years, it was a carefully planned strategy and many of our leaders who were educated in uk acted like their representatives and divided india and pakistan.
had pakistan , bangladesh and india been united , today, who could have dared to look upon us.
and now forgetting everything we are fighting like dreaded foes ? I do not know how many generations would it take more to remain like this?
I must whole heartedly admit that all our gullible people were made fools and continue to be made even today
that is one of the reasons by britain and usa gave away citizenships to all intellectuals of india and pakistan during 1955 – 1970 so that these intellectuals become their supporters and do not foment hatred for them in their motherland.
i hope people reading my comments may try to abuse me and call me names , but I do not mind as far as they read and understand my comments.
It was finally because of nehru and gandhi that india was divided and after that indira divided bangaladesh for which pakistan still nurses a lot of hatred for india and hence the current problems
We can paint the map of the Earth as per our whim and choices but the Earth can not be defaced because it has its nature, character and reasons.
Namashkar, Namastay, Shalom, Salaam and Hello: God Bless you for sharing this wonderful thought. Those who spread hatred are our common enemies.
However we are not sure why this subject is being brought up on a simple discussion about Mrs. Indira Gandhi who happened to be the PM of “India”. A similar pice has been written about the French leader, a US President, and the Pakistani PM.
May God Bless you for bringing Kabir into the lives of our readers.
We join you in your crusade against hatred and bigotry.
i dont understsnd u, why bring this issue after she had died and cannot defend herself and even if she did sleep arounf it was her private affais, same with gandhi his sleeping with girls ecet ect were is provate affairs
what matter was indira was a strong PM who even screwed the USA and they hated her bec the pak generals would kiss their feet and here was a lady who cared to hoots and did what she had too
about affairs latest is benazin was supposed to be sleeping with Imran, sherry raehaman with zardari, generalTikka raped countless womens, so wher does this lead,
bec i beleived the only brave leader u guys ever had was benezar bhutto , she came leaving all the luxurious life know that she could be killed by sunni terrorist, but she came hats off to her a very brave lady who cares who she slept with that is for the pimps to keep track of
Not sure what “you guys’ and other stuff means. This is simply a book reiview of the literature available on Indira Gandhi who was a leader of the Indian National Congress and an important figure. Obvioulsy the article is very popular and thousands have read it. It sheds ligh on the darker side of Mrs. Gandhi.
Not sure why you are discussing unrelated events and Benazir Bhutto here. Not sure what religion had to do with her…Your emotional outburst do not achieve anything, will be ignored, and are water off a duck’s back.
PEACE BE UPON YOU
majhab nahi sikhaatha
aapas mein bair rakhna
“no religion tells to fight ”
these are famous words of a poet who migrated to pakistan from india
nothing more to say
than to understand.
“pothi padi padi jag mua pandit hua na koi
dai akshar prem ka padai so pandit hoi”
-sant kabir says one who read a lots of books never became a scholar but the one who understood the two and half word (in hindi) love is the real scholar.
HATRED BEGETS HATRED
and there is no real muslim left over in the world
IF WE WERE TO UNDERSTAND FOLLOWERS OF QURAN AS MUSLIMS
arab names dont make anyone a muslim
i pity you all those
who live a false life
insha allah
LET KNOWLEDGE BELONG TO ALL
WAS and Namashkar.
Every artilce has numerous sources. Discussing the successes and failures of Gandhi has nothing to do with building bridges of harmony and are not contradictory.
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Rupee News is unbiased in criticisng and unearthing facts about leaders from around the globe. We have articles on the French First lady, about American presidents, abot US Senators and about Pakistani PMs and also Pakistani parlementarisn.
Why would Indian politicians be exempt from criticism and why would you feel that these articles would create animosity. Is Moroji Desai drank Urine, how does that creat fueds between countries? If Clinton slept with Gershon, does it create tnesion with Moscow? If Gilani groped Sherry how does that create animosity with India. If Indira slept with the typist, how does that create hatred with Pakistan?
If you want to see some really good stuff on bigotry, please see hinduunity.org
The sources of all articles and information is always listed in the article. Obviously reading is a art. If one reads the articles one can see the sources which are very clearly listed.
Nehru: Stanley Wolpert, M.J. Akbar, and a host of writers listed in the article
Gandhi: BT SIngh, Bose, Saigorni Naidu, and two recent books by two Grandsons of Gandhi, as well as South African archives
Indira:Rukun Advani is the author of Beethoven Among the Cows and runs Permanent Black, a publishing company in New Delhi.”
Gilani: We would let the video do the talking
Clinton: A plethora of news reports all listed in the article
Urine Drinking: Indian Telegraph
Indians eating rats: BBC
….and so on and so forth
Hi Moin bhai, salam-val-e-kum,
I had one doubt after reading this blog. Could you please confirm that this indeed is a parody site mocking those people who unilaterally decide to “invent” facts and theories to spread hatred and animosity among the gullible people of two countries which have shared the same culture for thousands of years.
P.S.: I never saw any source apart from your own parody site’s old posts, it will be a favour if you can post,in your reply, the links to sources of some of the “facts” that you have mentioned.
Junaid: Thank you for your comments. We have covered this topic in one of the articles on Gandhi. You are right. The quote in this article is not ours.
Best Regards,
Moin
just one point.
indira’s ghandhid’s husband was not a parsi. He was a Muslim.
Feroz gandhi is portryaed by old congresmen ((including M K Gandhi) as a parsi so that her children, Rajiv and Sanjay are not classed as half Muslim
Based tracking, “Sam” and “Friend” are the same person who are posting multiple messages under different names
Mr moin if u people are so much interested in discussing some body’s sex life then I am sure u and friends family members sex lives would b more interesting who get married within family and keep multiple wives. so stop encouraging these type of articles or b ready for some gud conversations. if u don’t delete this article then I promise u lot of sex stories on ur site.
Thank you for your kind comments and feedback.
We agree…If 350 million Hindus were killed in the Mahabharta (source Mahabharta) wars and millions during the Kaura Panda wars, and if Buddhism and Hinduism was exterminated from Hindustan by the Brahamins, it does not mean that Buddhism should be reinstituted as the primary religion in the land of the Ganges. (http://rupeenews.com/2008/02/03/why-did-buddhism-disappear-from-the-south-asian-subcontinent-summary-of-brahmin-atrocities-that-destroyed-buddhism-in-the-subcontinent/)
We appreciate your thoughfulness and the time you spent in sharing your valuable ideas with rupee News.
Namashkar
Editor
Thanx a lot Mr Moin for agrreing to some of my comments. even I condemn anyone spreading hatred against our friend pakistan including few of my country men. but is it justified that because of few maniacs on both sides the innocent people who want to live peacefully with eachother suffer. ound reality is people from both country’s like eachother. we admire wasim akram, ghulam ali, adnam sami and junoon a I believe sharukh khan, dhoni and laloo prasad is admired by pakistanis. I told earlier also, its a humble effort from a ‘ aam admi’ and I don’t expect miracle to change d scenorio in few days, damage done over a period would take a lot of time and effort. I don’t know what proof you want to prove india’s secularism apart from what is on record. but then its upto people to decide . if u don’t mind then may I ask u that what are u or ur site doing to get the two countries and their people closer. as far as india spreading hatred then I must say it just individual perception . in the same way ISI is also spreading terrorism in india because of which innocent people including muslims are being killed . if ISI or few pakIstanis think that few polcy maker in india are responsible for chaos then must target them and not innocent people, ladies and kids. there would be so many mistakes committed in history but we can not correct them. what hitler did that doesn’t mean people of germany would be punished by d whole world. if taimur or aurangzeb killed so many hindus then that doesn’t mean we will start killing today’s muslims. that w
s history and there were muslims like dara shikoh, akbar and bahadur shah jafar. at last , regarding states , land and making country bigger in size I would just say what last badshah of hindustan I’d before departing from this world -’ kitna hai badnasseb jafr dafn ke liye, do gaz jamin na mil saki us kuch-yaar main !ultimately nothing is ours and we all require only do gaz. is duniya ka ‘ khuda hafiz’ My last comment. bye.
Your message will be conveyed to the lovers of Indira Gandhi who made the public revalations about her
the criticism of Indira Gandhi has nothing to do with any flag or nationality. We have criticised Mr. Gilani as well for his possible inappropriate behaviour.
This article on India as a World power was written by CyberGandhi of the Dalit Network. He is a Dalit. We will convey your comments to him. If he wants to respond to you he will.
We agree with you and will gladly sing Shanti with you. However the policies of India are spreading terror in two Pakistani provinces, and killing Kashmiris on a daily basis.
India has occupied Pakistani territory, Kashmir, Manvadar, Junagarh, Siachin and Sir Creek. Return these and there will be peace between Pakistan and India.
We love Indians and Hindus. We will continue to condemn thone within India who spread ahte ad bigotry towards the peaceful people of Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan, Sikkim, Sri Lanka, Mayanmar etc.
Your characterization of Pakistani sentiments is misplaced. Indian “secularism” has been discussed at length on our site by Dr. Chochal, Dr. isha Khan and others. India secularism is a farce. tokenism does not matter
mr moin, I am disappointed that u didn’t comment on what I said. if u feel there is a little bit truth in what I said and as Musalman whose ‘mussalam hai jiska iman’ stop spreading hatred and refine articles on ur site may b delete which is not reqd or whose coent is not helping anyone and just satisfying false ego and complex of few. who did what and why, should not b so important and we must concentrate what we can do for the society’s future in this world of globalisation, or else cming generations will never forgive us for spoiling the world. I personally feel that their is no fighting among religions but few maniacs are instigating people. Talibanis blew off buddhas’s statues in afghanistan but they don’t hve any problm with China or Srilanka who follow buddhism. Few Pakistanis are against secular state india, with muslim president, because of hvng hindus in majority but they don’t mind close relations with Nepal which is a proper hindu state . why these double standards . I don’t know when people will understand these things. hope soon or else ….Aum shanti shanti shanti. Ameen. God Bless.
Hi,
Sex life of anybody is a personal affair of him/her, and best known by him/her only. Other’s has no right to poke their nose in it like a looser.
I don’t know what [deleted] you are trying here to prove.
Ridiculous article.
Well said Sandy.
If we start digging shit, we get shit!
Let us focus for the constructiveness and goodness for one another.
Sreeni
ur website indicates ur distorted mental state and bia ed thinking. history indicates that pakistan nefer existed when bharat was known as ‘golden bird’. before 1000 bc , hindus ruled this and neighbouring parts of the world. though muslims rulers killed smany hindus and converted so many, had more than one wife with lots of children , still hindus are in majority in this region. together with buddhist of neighbouring countries, which have links to hinduism, are in majority. as far as differentiation to be carried out then there divisions in islam also . people who feel proud in saying that their community massacred so many people, then they should not call themselves muslims as islam or for that matter any religion teaches killing people especially women and children in cold blood. hindus have survived so many attacks by outsiders as they are tolerant society.only tolerant will continue and stiff will break. people who feel insecure only do all these acts. if ur site is so keen in quoting books of different authors who hve no sense of respect fr others then u must quote ’salman rushdie’ & taslima nasreen’ s books. u will feel how it pinches. so lets stop mud slinging and be genuinely unbiased, propagate love not hatred. few so called truths which hurt people ’s sentiments must b avoided fr the interest of society . at last ‘ I won’t might being Born in any other religion or country till I am living peacefully, propagating love and helping the needy with tolerant atmosphere around.’ I don’t know what I was in previous birth and what I wll b in next. what’s d aim of so many people to come to this world. Mind u got doesn’t reqiure any Body’s praises or help fr his act but requires people to spread the teaching for a betterment of society. I know all this is too idealistic but no harm in trying and understanding as we don’t know we will go frm this world in some road accident or disease . I thank god fr giving me this wisdom before its too late. I and so many others in india don’t mind saying pakistan or islam jindabad, but india and hinduism , sikhism, buddhism, christinety also jindabad. thank u
The sex life of Indira Gandhi is well documented by various Indian authors and international historians.
Her various lovers wrote articles about her with intimate details.
Just melodrama and superflous use of english showing proficiency to impress “Garib” nawabs of your country.
Speaking bomblastic and writting fake words is long histroty of Paki[istan] politician and journalist and writtist.Really pas masters.
i havn’ observed any qualities of biased journalism in your all articles.
one would wonder in some articles you are poised Pakistan’s millitary affairs and implications , that I can understand but interlining Indian leader’s private life and unearthing some plagiarism of someone’s book doenN’t bothered India and World.
You say that has been written by Indian books. Ok but that doent mean is it informed well ?. Still you dont’ understand pitfalls ? how poor ? hahaahh. No wonder well documentation is often true.
Mr Moin , as a educated person ,why one should bother about your pesudo lump kinetic model which is absoultely baseless and some times no words
I can understand only if as a full time unemployed person can very well hyphenate there rivals with there culture with political tenure.
Your comparisions of Shri late Indira Gandhi, and Khajuraho temples (some deities-in which you have least knowledge and cognizance about there presence) and Indian heroins (sudden magically appearance) and transwestern galactic (some what vatican miano) statues from blala bala museum and all in all is showing you have generated baseless and perfunctory sense . and I think it would be really helpful articles to appease your peoples and Ombudsmant
And one thing “to symbolise and epitomize Gold you dont’ to say oh this is Gold” As per to say truth you need only one who should listen truth and say truth.
From Indus vally epoch to India Gandhi and beyond India is and Indian Generations least bothered about these falls prosecutioans and allegations. Because in India correct histrory channeled throgh mature education.
Good Gripe water for your generation.
JAI HIND
Your referance and statics is absolte blunder and
SUBJECT: REBUTTAL TO ‘71
Respected Mr, Moin Ansari
… u r a lead role for journalists we admire your style of work — unveiling the monstors behind the the so called “great politicans”. You must go on because you r doing unique work (very different from other type of journalist) or news makers..
..one of your curser who has condemed you.
Mehrunnisa Salam, on May 9th, 2008 at 5:48 am Said: “You forget that it was Indira Gandhi who destroyed Pakistan by breaking it into two and virtually ruining the whole ‘two nation’ theory”
She is a hater of Pakistani because her ancestors were slaughered by Muslims warriors.
I want to give her a example about the Muslim past. Koenraad Elst the Dutch historian quotes Professor K.S. Lal’s “Growth of Muslim population in India“, who writes that according to his calculations, the Hindu population decreased by 8O MILLION between the year 1000 and 1525. INDEED PROBABLY THE BIGGEST HOLOCAUST IN THE WHOLE WORLD HISTORY. (Negat.34) musliz zindabad also hindu genbocide in 1971
Thus the conquest of Afghanistan in the year 1000, was followed by the annihilation of the entire Hindu population there; indeed, the region is still called Hindu Kush, ‘Hindu slaughter’.
The Bahmani sultans in central India, made it a rule to kill 100.000 Hindus a year.
In 1399, Teimur killed 100.000 Hindus IN A SINGLE DAY, and many more on other occasions. Koenraad Elst quotes Professor K.S. Lal’s “Growth of Muslim population in India”, who writes that according to his calculations, the Hindu population decreased by 8O MILLION between the year 1000 and 1525. INDEED PROBABLY THE BIGGEST HOLOCAUST IN THE WHOLE WORLD HISTORY. (Negat.34)”
…or she has been affected by hindu genocide 3 million kiled in bangladesh even then these Hindus try to raise their voices against Muslims they have learned nothing from past
…if she posts hate message about a democratic country then she must also await for message which shows more hatredism
aslam
Gandhi supported the British wars, extended colonialism was a Seargent Major in the British Army, and volunteered to be the Recruiter in Chief for te Viceroy sending thousands of Indians to war and death supporting the crown.
In his personal life, according to his grandsons and a host of other reliable authors, he was an adulterer, and carried on incenstuas relationships with his grand neice and regularly beat up his own wife. He slept naked with tow women evry night to test his reaction–one of them Manu his grand niece.
The Birlas promoted him as an icon. The fakir has no clothes. He has been unmasked.
respected mr moin ansari
you r the one who is un vailing the dark side of ” gandhi jee[bapu}” earler i ahd respect for this man in my esteem but now after his reality is exposed i think he shall be awarded worst corrupt politican award
urs truly aslam
Mr. Sidharth:
Thank you for your valuable feedback.
There are articles about Non-Indians on this site too which may fill others with rage, on Bill Clinton, on French First “Lady” Carla Bruni, on the current prime minister of Pakistan Mr. Gilani, about Pakistani politician Kashmala Tariq. This has nothing to do about any flag or nationality. The articles on Mrs Gandhi as well as Mr. Mohandad Gandhi are based upon Indian authorship–and in the case of Mr. Mohandas Gandhi on the wirtings of his grandsons.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with Rupee News.
We look forward to seeing you back and more dialogue.
3 Requests for you Mr. Moin,
#1) you mentioned about Wolfert’s Biography on Indira, which is banned in India. Can you please write an article about it? I m curious to know what has been written in it?
#2)
same way a close associate of Indira wrote a book called ‘behind the power corridors..’ (some similar name) , that book too, is banned in India, so please do find what he said in that book.
#3)
do enlighten us with such articles on her other members of family
Rajiv-Sonia: her son, Daughter in law. &
Rahul and Priyanka Gandhi : her grand-children
Well i was filled with rage after reading so much about Indira Gandhi. but after reading your reply to one of our mavericks from India i cooled down. if an Indian writer these sort of things about Indira than why to blame this site. Guess we have to put our own house in order first. I also agree with Nehru – Lady Mountbetten connection, unfortunately it is a fact but we Indians find it hard to swallow. Look where that affair has brought us, A constant enimity with Pakistan on Kashmir. I dont know all this about Indira Gandhi is right or not, but since it is coming from an Indian auther and the book is published in Delhi, i have no choice but to keep quite and bow my head in shame….
Thank you for your feedback. I like your site.
Ali Khan: 21% is for National Assembly. If you add the local bodies it is more because the local bodies are mandated at 33%.
Those who have read the history of the Subcontinent…know better.
Why we Created Pakistan? http://rupeenews.com/2007/11/27/why-we-created-pakistan-the-pakistan-ideology/
http://rupeenews.com/2008/04/24/there-was-no-partition-for-britain-indian-empire-included-somalia-iraq-burma-singapore-etc-for-the-french-india-included-vietnam-indo-china-for-the-dutch-india-included/
http://moinansari.wordpress.com/files/2008/05/continent-of-dinia-and-dependencies.jpg
If you had read Chaudhry rehmat Ali’s “Now or Never” or if you had read the article on Pakistan, Dinia or you knew Pakistani history you would know that Chaudhry Rehmat Ali proposed several states in the Subcontinent and Bengal was called Bangistan. Pakistan was the moniker for the Norhtwesterns states. Hydrabad was called Osmanistan. Chaudhry Rehmat Ali’s plan was proposed as the Lahore declaration which also porposed several states.
Moin, Let me correct you here, U are wrong when u said women representation is 21% its no where near 21% it FAR Beyond 21% its 33%. and guess what if you add civil administration it goes close to 38%.
I think you need to give some info to your visitors about Pakistan’s Name… Where is the Word B from Bengal or bangladesh in there ?
I hope you will get the idea….
Oh, By the way just to let you know.. there is No tribe in Pakistan which still lives in jungles and eats other humans. next time if some on shows up.. tell them this.. Five cities don’t make a country its every part and city town and village that counts.
Regards
Ali Khan
Indira was a brave girl who married with other cast and made an example that cast is nothing main thing is morality. we are only whuman. we save all.
thanks
Your “high class” comments are a vivid display of the mentality behind the pornographic comments.
..so it’ its you again Ram. At least have some honesty and use your real name Ram Chandra.
Rupee News has more than 2000 articles in the database. About a dozen or so deal with sex and the sexuality of leaders. You have chosen to read one of them. Rupee News is not Pakistan based. We are an international site with a significant readership in the USA, Middle East and India. Your outburst against Pakistan is amazing. We were discussing Indira Gandhi here, not any other country.
The sources of the story on Indira Gandhi are all “Indian” (Rukun Advani is the author of Beethoven Among the Cows and runs Permanent Black, a publishing company in New Delhi..etc etc.”). Please take your objections to the Indian press and Indian authors. Her promiscuity shows us her and your class. We simply repeated public knowledge.
Indira Gandhi did nothing. She simply took advantage of acivil war. She is hated by the Sikhs and larger portions of the “Indian” population.
If Ms. Gandhi had done anything to the geo-policcal situation of South Asia, Bangaldesh would have folded into “India”–it did not and remains a greater threat to “India” than before. Read the 1940 Lahore resolution before repeating 8th grade notions about the 2 Nation Theory. After being ruled for a 1000 years, 1971 may not give you much solace.
Let reality intrude. Pakistan has a higher per capita income GNP than India. Perhaps when you finish reading you “Indian” story books you can learn some real history. Pakistan has 21% of its parliament which is female.
Millions of baby girls are killed in “India” before and right after brith at at the death of their husbands.Please see treatment of women in “India”
Also, please read some facts about India’s future.India is superpower? Part 1
You are such [abuse edited] who does not even have any regards for the personal life of any leader. There are no proofs with you of whatever you have written on this page. It just smacks of cheap publicity and nothing else.
You forget that it was Indira Gandhi who destroyed Pakistan by breaking it into two and virtually ruining the whole ‘two nation’ theory. It was she who made India such a power in 1970 and 80s that whole of South Asia was known as Indian backyard.
The problem with Pakistan is it is still immensely feudal. You cannot even imagine of a female politician who can come up in national politics on the basis of her capability. Even in the case of Benazir Bhutto, its you kind of cheap worms, who make stories that she had illegal relationship with Rajiv Gandhi and other scores of people.
The need is change your mentality. Pakistan is already [abuse edited] your kind of dogmatic, orthodox, back-driving people. We have got a new chance to build a new Pakistan which will be away from all musharrafs, yahya khans and other idiots. Which will have no place of fanatics, fundamentalist, male chauvinists, and people like you who almost sound like Mehsud, the killer of benazir.
Have some shame, not for you, but for your country, for your female family members. This kind of article brings no fame for you but destroys the name of Pakistan and brings shame to us kind of people, who are showed by our western friends, that this is the level of debate which goes in Pakistan.